Aaron,
It's not about you (don't take this personally), me or any Reviteer who has
master Revit to produce the building model, 2D detailing, importing and
exporting to complete a set of construction drawings. Instead it is about a
firms ability to transfer their AutoCAD/ADT seats to Revit, train their
staff and modify their current practices and standards to enhance Revit's
modeling and parametric benefits.
You already know from your own experiences as a dealer and practicing
professional that not every firm can will Revit into their practice ,nor
convince their staff to change from what they already are secure in using or
get them up and running (training) on Revit. In the larger architectural
and engineering firms, just the act of getting IS and/or CAD management to
upgrade programs without thorough testing, deployment plans, training and
customization is a Herculean task resulting in delays of months To ask any
firm to interrupt their work flow, even for greater benefit, is paramount to
cash flow death and client deliverable delays.
In any firm, greater than five CAD users, the ability to adopt better
software or adapt to the coming changes in architectural services, slowly
being ushered in by building modeling and parametric, is going to take
several years. Until their is an cadre of knowledgeable and experienced
Revit user's to meet the demands of the architectural and AEC communities
workforce as there already exists for AutoCAD, transition will be steady,
but slow.
The success stories that some firms have published are only a glimpse of
building modeling and the future of parametric. Since the majority of AEC
firms will continue to use AutoCAD along with the myriad of consultants
providing building design services, management will hold to perceptions that
AutoCAD is still the glue between Revit and the rest of the CAD world.
I would fully agree with you that doing the detailing in Revit is easy,
better coordinated and controlled. But then those who started with Revit
early on are the explorers (like Christopher Columbus or Colon as he was
known) and you and I who came with Autodesk's adaptation of Revit pioneers,
forging new pathways for our peers to follow.
So let us all carve a new landscape for the practice of architecture and
pave the way to a greater reward.
--
Mel Persin, Architect-AIA
Network/CAD Consultant,
Support & Training
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"Aaron Rumple"
wrote in message
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> I'm finding this not really true. I'd rather draft in Revit than AutoCAD
> even for 2D. I thought I'd need AutoCAD to transition my drawings, but as
> I've imported a lot of the office drawings into Revit - I'm shocked at how
> poorly drawn AutoCAD drawings are. Drawings I would look at in AutoCAD and
> consider "good" and "clean" are full of inaccuracies and garbage drawing.
> Cleanup is simpler in Revit than in AutoCAD.
>
> "Mel Persin" wrote in message
> news:3fe2e1bd$1_5@statler...
> > My opinion valued a buck on today's market and inflation rate is you
will
> > still need AutoCAD for the next several years. You may not need every
> seat
> > to have AutoCAD as you migrate your staff over to Revit. Yes Revit can
do
> > it all, but you still have staff in transition, outside consultants,
> clients
> > and the construction community who will still cling to AutoCAD as we
> evolve
> > building modeling with Revit.
> >
> > Do you need Revit series, not necessarily. If the plan is to migrate
all
> of
> > your AutoCAD, LT or ADT seats to Revit then you probably could work
quite
> > well with retaining your AutoCAD LT seats. Your not likely to be doing
> any
> > 3D modeling or need 3rd party software API or program interfacing or
need
> to
> > program AutoCAD internally once you transition fully to Revit.
> >
> > Of course during the critical transition period to Revit and until all
> staff
> > is trained and your appended standards to include Revit's building model
> > process and methods is fully developed, you will still have seats of
> > AutoCAD/ADT staff can use. But down the line, a year or slightly more,
as
> > Revit demonstrates to management and staff the ease of learning,
> > opportunities during design, efficiency in production documentation and
> > elimination of errors of drawing sheets, graphic and schedule
> coordination,
> > your firm will shed the old legacy 2D CAD for Revit's Building Modeling
> and
> > fully parametric database.
> >
> > AutoCAD will be unnecessary in your design and production process and a
> > convenience to manage drawings received from outside resources or
clean-up
> > Revit's views exported to other CAD formats.
> >
> > --
> > Mel Persin, Architect-AIA
> > Network/CAD Consultant,
> > Support & Training
> >
> > "John Story" wrote in message
news:3fe2156c$1_2@statler...
> > > I got the correct version last night for the upgrade to the seat we
have
> > now
> > > but have a question as to the best way to move forward from here to
get
> > > more. I understand that there are essentially two versions now, one
that
> > is
> > > "standalone" called "Autodesk Revit 6.0" and one that is "AutoCAD
Revit
> > > Series".
> > >
> > > So, beyond the obvious that AutoCAD is included in one, what specific
> > > differences are there between the two packages? A different installer
> > > implies that it is installing at least some other portions or linking
> > > somehow into AutoCAD or something. Does it link to that specific seat
of
> > > AutoCAD? Please be specific.
> > >
> > > I am on the verge of transfering several unused seats of AutoCAD to
one
> or
> > > the other, and the licenses will be networked for all seats obtained.
My
> > > first impression would be to get the AutoCAD Revit Series, so I can
> still
> > > have the AutoCAD seats and the Revit seats, unless they are somehow
tied
> > to
> > > each other or cannot be network licensed. If this is the case, I will
> get
> > > the Autodesk Revit 6.0 and don't really need the excess AutoCAD if I
am
> > > going to use Revit.
> > >
> > > Anyone?
> > >
> > > Thanks to all that help,
> > > John
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>