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Autocad on diskless Windows terminals

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Anonymous
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Autocad on diskless Windows terminals

Are any of you using Autocad on diskless Windows terminals, with the
program stored only in the server? Any caveats? It's a whole new LAN
for which I have it in mind.

Thank you.

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Message 2 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

I doubt you will find many doing that. AutoCAD is a beast interms of
RAM, and it will clog the living Bah-Jesus out of your network if you
try to do it with a dummy terminal, even with Gigabit ethernet on every
terminal.

Heck running AutoCAD on a tradition workstation can do a number on your
network.

AutoCAD is really meant to work on a high-level desktop to mid-level
workstation. Trying to run it on a terminal class machine will most
likely bog the machine down to the point of unusability.

If you can find a way to avoid running AutoCAD via terminal services, do
it. Otherwise your users will spend more time waiting for AutoCAD to
catch up to them than spending time drawing.

Cheers,
CMF

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> Are any of you using Autocad on diskless Windows terminals, with the
> program stored only in the server? Any caveats? It's a whole new LAN
> for which I have it in mind.
>
> Thank you.
>
Message 3 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Chris Ferris" wrote in message
news:9DD52897E671FB328FAFB862E56CAA68@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> I doubt you will find many doing that. AutoCAD is a beast interms of
> RAM, and it will clog the living Bah-Jesus out of your network if you
> try to do it with a dummy terminal, even with Gigabit ethernet on
every
> terminal.

Thanks Chris. The guy who suggested doing it is an architect ostensibly
with some IT knowledge, and he gave me the impression that he's seen it
done.

While I agree that it's not a workable solution, I wanted to see if
anybody thinks it is before I tell the bosses the suggestion is no good.
Message 4 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

No problem. That's what this newgroup is for.

And I kind of thought this was a more theory than practice thing.

One question, what was the architect looking to accomplish? If it was
an attempt to improve productivity, you may want to send your CAD people
to a touch typing class. This may sound stupid at first, but it really
does help. It increased my drafting speed by at least 40%. And I
passed it down to a couple of my guys and they sped up around 20%.

Anyway, that's all I've got to say 'bout that,
CMF

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> "Chris Ferris" wrote in message
> news:9DD52897E671FB328FAFB862E56CAA68@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
>>I doubt you will find many doing that. AutoCAD is a beast interms of
>>RAM, and it will clog the living Bah-Jesus out of your network if you
>>try to do it with a dummy terminal, even with Gigabit ethernet on
>
> every
>
>>terminal.
>
>
> Thanks Chris. The guy who suggested doing it is an architect ostensibly
> with some IT knowledge, and he gave me the impression that he's seen it
> done.
>
> While I agree that it's not a workable solution, I wanted to see if
> anybody thinks it is before I tell the bosses the suggestion is no good.
>
>
Message 5 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Chris Ferris" wrote in message
news:8EFB09B1B9618F5CC4C0D2C111A361A3@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> No problem. That's what this newgroup is for.
>
> And I kind of thought this was a more theory than practice thing.
>
> One question, what was the architect looking to accomplish? If it was
> an attempt to improve productivity, you may want to send your CAD
people
> to a touch typing class.

No, it was security. He didn't want floppies or hard drives on the
machines. But there are other ways to accomplish that with group
policies.
Message 6 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

No offense, but where do you work that would require a security level
high enough to prevent copying to the local machine? The NSA?

If you really want security, you can set the group policy and you can
just remove the floppy (you really don't need a floppy anyway).

Cheers,
CMF

Tom Del Rosso wrote:

> No, it was security. He didn't want floppies or hard drives on the
> machines. But there are other ways to accomplish that with group
> policies.
>
>
Message 7 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Chris Ferris" wrote in message
news:6A85A5884EDB0D3073B379CC5D050F24@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> No offense, but where do you work that would require a security level
> high enough to prevent copying to the local machine? The NSA?
>
> If you really want security, you can set the group policy and you can
> just remove the floppy (you really don't need a floppy anyway).

I suggested omitting floppies, but the terminals were presented to me as
a requirement by an intermediary who said the boss wanted this for
security. Right after my last post I spoke to the boss directly. He
said his main concern was reducing the space occupied by the computers
because the new office is very cramped. The desks also need space for
drawings, etc.

A terminal would be smaller, but I think we could squeeze a PC into the
desks somehow. Any ideas there? (I'm sorry to change the question like
that. I wish they would've let me talk straight to the top in the first
place.)

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Message 8 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

You could also look at using a laptop for space concerns. Just lock it
down so that no lone walks away with it ;-)...

Hope this helps.

Bud

"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
news:128239718045A4B47A39F33C97768D5F@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> "Chris Ferris" wrote in message
> news:6A85A5884EDB0D3073B379CC5D050F24@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> > No offense, but where do you work that would require a security level
> > high enough to prevent copying to the local machine? The NSA?
> >
> > If you really want security, you can set the group policy and you can
> > just remove the floppy (you really don't need a floppy anyway).
>
> I suggested omitting floppies, but the terminals were presented to me as
> a requirement by an intermediary who said the boss wanted this for
> security. Right after my last post I spoke to the boss directly. He
> said his main concern was reducing the space occupied by the computers
> because the new office is very cramped. The desks also need space for
> drawings, etc.
>
> A terminal would be smaller, but I think we could squeeze a PC into the
> desks somehow. Any ideas there? (I'm sorry to change the question like
> that. I wish they would've let me talk straight to the top in the first
> place.)
>
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Message 9 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

Oh, OK now it makes more sense!

If your looking for space saving designs, you can take a look at IBM
machines. I know they have made some extremely slim lined machines that
are the equivilant of a moderate level desktop. I haven't looked at
them recently, but I think they are still around and not too expensive.
Have fun at with your search.

By they way, every desk that I have sat in can fit a mid-tower under the
leg gap. It may take up about 1/4 of the available space, but it tends
to act as one really nice foot rest .

Cheers,
CMF

Tom Del Rosso wrote:
> "Chris Ferris" wrote in message
> news:6A85A5884EDB0D3073B379CC5D050F24@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
>>No offense, but where do you work that would require a security level
>>high enough to prevent copying to the local machine? The NSA?
>>
>>If you really want security, you can set the group policy and you can
>>just remove the floppy (you really don't need a floppy anyway).
>
>
> I suggested omitting floppies, but the terminals were presented to me as
> a requirement by an intermediary who said the boss wanted this for
> security. Right after my last post I spoke to the boss directly. He
> said his main concern was reducing the space occupied by the computers
> because the new office is very cramped. The desks also need space for
> drawings, etc.
>
> A terminal would be smaller, but I think we could squeeze a PC into the
> desks somehow. Any ideas there? (I'm sorry to change the question like
> that. I wish they would've let me talk straight to the top in the first
> place.)
>
Message 10 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Chris Ferris" wrote in message
news:1CB12CDC2CF323D2EFB5B449EFB5D11D@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
> Oh, OK now it makes more sense!
>
> If your looking for space saving designs, you can take a look at IBM
> machines. I know they have made some extremely slim lined machines
that
> are the equivilant of a moderate level desktop. I haven't looked at
> them recently, but I think they are still around and not too
expensive.
> Have fun at with your search.

I never liked IBM machines. Someone pointed me to this Dell link which
I think we'll go with:

http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/model_optix_optix_sx270.htm
Message 11 of 11
Anonymous
in reply to: Anonymous

"Tom Del Rosso" wrote in message
news:5EB4FCB7C4C43E7DCFD14FEE0686CABE@in.WebX.maYIadrTaRb...
>
> I never liked IBM machines. Someone pointed me to this Dell link
which
> I think we'll go with:
>
> http://www.dell.com/us/en/bsd/products/model_optix_optix_sx270.htm

Egads! I deleted the line that said "Thanks Chris" by mistake. Sorry.

Thanks Chris. 🙂

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