I Have problem to change Revision Tag Triangle size. I need to suit the triangle size to the proportional size (as shown on attachment). Any idea? any help will be appreciated. Thanks.
Solved! Go to Solution.
Solved by Curtis_Waguespack. Go to Solution.
Solved by Daren.Lawrence. Go to Solution.
The revision tag size is governed by the text height used for it in the styles based on ASME standards. To my knowledge, this isn't exposed in the API and if that's the case, we couldn't even access the spacing of the symbol to text height with a macro. Based on that, your best bet is to define your own symbol in your template(s) and use this triangle size for your rev tags.
Hi Daren,
We have one license of SolidWorks, and when try to put revision tag, it looks better, we can also rotate it. As I know we can't found it this menu in Inventor. May be Autodesk should be concern about it, as the people have been asking or posting from several years ago.
Thank you for attantion.
The post says issue solved. Changing the text size does not change the ratio of the circle or the triangle. Just makes the text harder to read. Unless the fix is to switch to solid works. Because this appears to to have been an issue for the last 6 years and Autodesk has never addressed this issue.
@Anonymous wrote:The post says issue solved. Changing the text size does not change the ratio of the circle or the triangle. Just makes the text harder to read. Unless the fix is to switch to solid works. Because this appears to to have been an issue for the last 6 years and Autodesk has never addressed this issue.
umm. Changing the text size changes the size of the triangle. Have you had any training on how to modify drawing styles properly?
I have been doing this for almost 30 years and every companys standard ballon size is .25 inch with .125 text. This has been the norm forever. Attached is the proof that I have changed the text size and that the revision balloon looks hugh in comparison. Please do not say you just dont know what you are doing when Autodesk cant even program to industry standards.
@Anonymous wrote:I have been doing this for almost 30 years and every companys standard ballon size is .25 inch with .125 text. This has been the norm forever. Attached is the proof that I have changed the text size and that the revision balloon looks hugh in comparison. Please do not say you just dont know what you are doing when Autodesk cant even program to industry standards.
The "norm" is not a standard. Autodesk is 100% compliant with ASME Y14.35M. However that standard is VERY open in what a revision tag/symbol is. Technically all one must do to be compliant is have a circle around your revision letters. No mention of circle to text scale/font size or anything. The size of the triangle or circle DOES change based on the size of the text inside it as I said above.
I do see your issue though in that the scale of a triangle to the text is smaller than the scale of the circle to text. We always use triangles here as I have found that to be more of the "norm". As a triangle represents the greek "delta" which means to "change".
The real problem is not Autodesk its that lack of a "complete" industry standard for revision symbols. However yes Autodesk could tighten up the scale of circle to text (and hexagon symbol too). The triangle and box are much more proportionate.
Hi Lark,
I have tagged this issue solved as Daren suggested to use our own triangle symbol, although exactly it is not fully satisfied.
@Mcgyvr,
Better you show (print screen or recorded screen) how do you solve this through style, as I still can't found which place in the style should be change to cover this issue. Your help will be appreciated.
Thank you.
binsar,
Thats the correct spot.. However looking at your image the triangle rev symbol scale looks off compared to what I get...
Now trying it myself I see that the smaller you make the text the greater the scale between font size and symbol size. I've always just used .125" text and the triangle looks "properly" scaled to me.
So yes something is not exactly right there and Autodesk should look into it. However I wouldn't put anything smaller than .125" text for a rev symbol anyways as anything less is too small to read when printed.
Oh and it gets even worse when you have more than 1 rev letter. Yuck.. yes this could use some improvement Autodesk. Yes you meet the intent of the standard but it would be nice if you refined this a bit.
@Daren.Lawrence wrote:... your best bet is to define your own symbol in your template(s) and use this triangle size for your rev tags.
I realize this is an old thread, but I'm using Revision Tags and the triangle is much larger than it needs to be. I came across this thead and the quote above, but I'm not finding how to do what @Daren.Lawrence describes. Is this really possible?
See the following image of my revison tag. The black is how big the triangle is. The red triangle I drew in manually and it's how big I'd like it to be.
Hi Daren, thanks for the info! However I don't see a video attachment or link. Am I missing something or did it get left out?
Never mind, I re-read your posts and realized you're talking about creating a custom Sketch Symbol as opposed to modifying the symbol used by an actual Revision Tag.
This isn't ideal at all because if I use the "Sheet Revision" property to fill in the annotation, then it will change to the latest revision which is wrong. But if I make it a prompted entry then I have to fill it in for every tag that I create. This method requires way more clicks and pokes on the keyboard than an actual Revision Tag. Would be really nice if we could just specify the tag size or define a custom sketched symbol for the revision tag itself.
But thanks for the info, this method will hopefully work even though it's more time-consuming.
Definitely not a proper fix.
Still a very real issue of not being able to scale the native revision tag symbol.
@MechMachineMan wrote:
Definitely not a proper fix.
Still a very real issue of not being able to scale the native revision tag symbol.
Agreed, here's an idea station idea, that needs some support:
http://forums.autodesk.com/t5/inventor-ideas/user-sizable-revision-tags/idi-p/4418265
* and I'm going to mark this post as a "solution" to push it to the top of the thread, so future readers who find this in a search might see it
Thanks, Curtis. That should gather some steam. Every Kudo on that link he posted counts. +1 from me 🙂
-Daren
several years on, and inventor still not getting the basics right. poor form
upvoted the suggestion. Are they waiting to get to 100??
Hi Paul,
Indeed, it is disappointing to see a request not implemented for a long time. The truth is there are many other highly requested ideas been implemented over the years. If possible, please vote for the idea so it will get ranked higher.
Many thanks!
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