Any chance to run VRED Presenter on a Notebook with Intel UHD Graphics 620?

[Christian_Garimberti]

Hi everyone,

i have a big (very big) customer that wants Vred Presenter for his sales peoples.

But every sales has a Dell notebook with Intel UHD Graphics 620.

Once installed, VRED Presenter crash at startup at 97% of loading.

I know that Intel graphics are not in the compatibility list, but, there is any chance to make Vred works?

or some workaround to try?

Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-8550U CPU @ 1.80GHz
Processor Speed: 1992 MHz
Processor Graphics in Use: Intel(R) UHD Graphics 620
Shader Version: 5.1
OpenGL* Version: 4.5
OpenCL* Version: 2.1
Vulkan* Version: 1.1.82

* Microsoft DirectX* *
Runtime Version: 12.0
Hardware-Supported Version: 12.0

Thanks

Chris

[michael_nikelsky · Accepted solution]

Sadly the intel gpu drivers are completely broken so you can´t run VRED on it. You will need an AMD or NVIDIA GPU to run VRED. Eventuelly it might be possible to run VRED in raytracing only mode by starting it with the -no_opengl argument but I doubt that this will be very usable on a notebook.

Kind regards

Michael

[Christian_Garimberti]

Unfortunately you gave me the answer I already knew ... 

I dindn't know the -no_opengl option. i will give a try.

Thank you

Chris

[michael_nikelsky]

I will try to contact Intel about this again but sadly the notebook manufactures are very lazy in delivering updated drivers as well and make it unnecessarily hard to install the native intel drivers, so I am not sure how much we can achieve here.

[Christian_Garimberti]

If you need a business case to help push your contact to Intel, i will give you the name of the Company that is interested in Vred Presenter on The Inthe Gpu.

Chris

[Christian_Garimberti]

Hi @michael_nikelsky , do you think a Dell notebook with a NVIDIA MX130 + 2GB di VRAM GDDR5, could run Vred Presenter?

For sales people that doesn't want big notebook workstation, could be an option? Obviously for small models...

Thanks

[michael_nikelsky]

We haven´t tested it but it should work for small scenes. 

[Christian_Garimberti]

Hi @michael_nikelsky , any news about the Intel GPU's drivers? Still so unusable?

Best

Chris

[michael_nikelsky]

We haven´t bothered testing them anymore after several years of frustration. The issue is that even if Intel fixes their drivers many notebook manufactures wouldn´t ship recent drivers so they would still crash. And from my last tests it wasn´t even possible to install the native intel drivers on some notebooks because....reasons I guess....

If your notebook has an Nvidia or AMD GPU it should be possible to run VRED on it, you might just need to adjust the driver properties so VRED always uses the discreet graphics.

[Christian_Garimberti]

Thank you, it is not for me, but for one of my customers that doesn’t want to change the “company standards” so they continue to give at sales peoples some dell notebooks with integrated GPU’s.

I always advice HP z series notebooks... they works very well.

Thank you

Chris

[Christian_Garimberti]

Hi @michael_nikelsky , any news on Intel GPU’s in the new 2023?

maybe working on the the new ARC GPU’s, intel will make some better drivers also for integrated one’s….

Best

Chris

[michael_nikelsky]

Well.....let´s say it this way: I was able to run VRED 2023 on my surface laptop 4 in OpenGL mode if I install the latest drivers from Intel (not from the notebook manufacturer).....at least 3 or 4 times before the driver would not work anymore.....and I wasn´t able to get it to run again, no idea why.

[Bob.Bon2000]

You can probably VM a linux distro and run it on Linux, or you could try running VM windows and give it some "generic" gpu that could be supported by vred. I've run it on Centos, just don't tell Autodesk as that Vred support is very welcome...

[Christian_Garimberti]

Hi @michael_nikelsky i tried the same  with the latest from Intel. but no way... it does not crash, but the render windows remain empty.

I will try the @Bob.Bon2000 advice on windows VM, but Hyper-V (not the server version) does not support GPU passtrough and does not support GPU definition in the VM configuration. And i think also Vmware have the same limit. but i will try some test. I'm not familiar wit Linux so i will not test it.

Thank you guys

Best

Chris

[Bob.Bon2000]

Use VMWare workstation 16 player for Linux(latest centos) as I tested it with that. As to windows, try Virtual Box, both of these apps can assign GPU to a degree to VM. Not direct passthrough, but it will simulate gpu, and I think that simulated gpu will be supported by Vred then.