Delete Autosave

Delete Autosave

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Delete Autosave

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Apparently AutoCAD will delete the autosave if it feels it was shut down
correctly. Well mine crashed yesterday and the autosaves were all deleted
so I ended up losing all my work since the previous qsave. I would like to
know if there is a variable for this or a way we could change it to just
never delete? I would be glad to manually purge the directory, but I never
want what happened yesterday to happen again. It makes autosave rather
pointless in my book.

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Dr. After
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Message 61 of 119

Anonymous
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*Gary Fowler* typed them thar words:

| I've noticed that the BAK_ file keeps getting larger with each save,
| why?

hmmm.... mine does too. If you open the file, all is normal with it. You
can save it in a different location and it is back to a rather small size,
too. What's going on Luis? Any ideas?

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Message 62 of 119

Anonymous
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hmmm.... mine does too. If you open the file, all is normal with it. You
can save it in a different location and it is back to a rather small size,
too. What's going on Luis? Any ideas?


I went and did some tests on that too... it appears to be the appending mode
for the vl-file-copy function...

Are those drawings from the autosave folder running okay?
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Message 63 of 119

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*ECCAD* typed them thar words:

| Now, let me see. I was reading this one...long and drawn out.
| No (solutions) as of yet. So,

Luis came up with one that is working rather well, actually. Nice little
LSP that backs up any autsave made and prevent duplicate instances of thew
same backup even.

| Why not tackle the (original) problem. AutoCAD Crashed.

I tried, but that is going to be a long drawn out task as I cannot get it to
happen. It hasn't happened in the last 2 years and has only happened to me
a few times in the last 8 years I have been cadding.

| Why ? Was it Windows / Temp Swap area too small ?

That was one thing I was wondering since I was zooming and panning (eating
up a lot of memory). I didn't have any other programs open, though so I am
kind of ruling that out right now. It could be a graphics card issue,
though. I would believe that more if I was doing some 3D, but this is a 2D
<600k file I was working on. Honestly I could not accuse lack or memory as
the culprit.

| Was it a 'glitch' / minor power-down ?

No power surges or anything of the like, so my battery back up claims.

| For my advise (and don't even THINK of bad-lipping me), I would go
| back to using the Qsave.....been solid for years.

No doubt, but I would like to solve the problem at hand. If qsave isn't
used for any reason and there is no default backup of the file you were
working on when AutoCAD crashes, what do you do? Recommending using qsave
does not solve that problem, now does it? I was hoping for a solution,
which the suggestions of using a permissioned folder or writing a backup
script provide the insight for. Now we just need to make it work, which is
what Luis was getting very good at doing.

| And, tackle the real problem.

Are you implying that human error is the real problem? In that case give it
a whirl. Man has been trying to solve that one since the dawn of man.

I would rather formulate a failsafe to help resolve the problems of human
error....

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Dr. After
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Message 64 of 119

Anonymous
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No, not pinning it on the 'humans'. It's entirely the
hardware/software. Probably a Windows problem.
Many (strange) things happen when Windows lets
you down (one way or the other). Generally, caused
by a lack of resources / or too small a swap.
I'm out-a-here.
Bob
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Message 65 of 119

Anonymous
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Please, give me some minutes... I'm doing a little change on the code and
some testing.... I would post the corrections in a moment.

LE
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Message 66 of 119

Anonymous
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*Luis Esquivel* typed them thar words:

| I went and did some tests on that too... it appears to be the
| appending mode for the vl-file-copy function...
|
| Are those drawings from the autosave folder running okay?

From what I can tell, yeah. They open fine and all appears the same as the
original drawing. And when resaved the file size goes back to normal.

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Message 67 of 119

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*Luis Esquivel* typed them thar words:

| Please, give me some minutes... I'm doing a little change on the code
| and some testing.... I would post the corrections in a moment.

OK... but if you don't get it fixed soon, your fired!
;-)

no problem... Just let us know what you come up with. Thanks again!!!

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Dr. After
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Message 68 of 119

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*ECCAD* typed them thar words:

| by a lack of resources / or too small a swap.

that is still what I may end up chasing... I just tried messing around with
a large 3D file with OE, IE, and WE open, but cold not get it to crash. If
I could pin it to that I would suggest a new graphics card, but I already
have a list of goodies I want and cant have.

| I'm out-a-here.

I don't blame you... I'm going to stick around for this solution from Luis
and see if OLD_CADaver has any follow up on his assumptions.

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Dr. After
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Message 69 of 119

Anonymous
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You running R2002 ?
I get crashes when simply trying to close / open
another dwg from a different path. If I double-click
on the .dwg with Explorer, opens just fine.
Bob
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Message 70 of 119

Anonymous
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The autosave file is now six times the size of the original file on the
network...
its not getting smaller.

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Gary Fowler - Architect
gdfowler@hotmail.com
"Dr. After" wrote in message
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*Luis Esquivel* typed them thar words:

| Please, give me some minutes... I'm doing a little change on the code
| and some testing.... I would post the corrections in a moment.

OK... but if you don't get it fixed soon, your fired!
;-)

no problem... Just let us know what you come up with. Thanks again!!!

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Dr. After
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Message 71 of 119

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*ECCAD* typed them thar words:

| You running R2002 ?
| I get crashes when simply trying to close / open
| another dwg from a different path. If I double-click
| on the .dwg with Explorer, opens just fine.

I did have 2002 for about 3 years and never experienced that problem. That
honestly sounds like something that actually could be corrected by the old
time suggestion of reinstalling it.

What processor, how much RAM, and what graphics card do you have?

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Message 72 of 119

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*Gary Fowler* typed them thar words:

| The autosave file is now six times the size of the original file on
| the network...
| its not getting smaller.

I wonder what will happen if you just let it keep growing? This is kind of
like the anticipation you get when you put aluminum foil in the microwave
and press "start"! And now we wait....

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Dr. After
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Message 73 of 119

Anonymous
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FWIW, I have seen this same thing that has been discussed to death in this
thread. However, since I created my own VBA app that performs a save for me
after every 25 commands have been issued (exclusive of zooms, pans and
undo's) I never worried about the autosave issue.

The reason I'm posting though, is to inform you of what I eventually found
to be the reason for the crashes. I had a RAM chip go bad...everything
worked well until Acad or Windows or whatever tried to access that one
little bit in that one chip...at which point *POOF* Acad just up and left
the building, taking the $SV file with it. Since replacing that RAM module I
have not had one crash where I didn't have the $SV file. Not that I have
that many crashes, most come from my attempt at programming something and I
forget to supply a way out of a loop.

HTH,
Jeff

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*ECCAD* typed them thar words:

| by a lack of resources / or too small a swap.

that is still what I may end up chasing... I just tried messing around with
a large 3D file with OE, IE, and WE open, but cold not get it to crash. If
I could pin it to that I would suggest a new graphics card, but I already
have a list of goodies I want and cant have.

| I'm out-a-here.

I don't blame you... I'm going to stick around for this solution from Luis
and see if OLD_CADaver has any follow up on his assumptions.

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Dr. After
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Message 74 of 119

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*Jeff Mishler* typed them thar words:

| I created my own VBA app that performs a
| save for me after every 25 commands have been issued (exclusive of
| zooms, pans and undo's) I never worried about the autosave issue.

ummm.... care to share that with the rest of the group? You know the
rules... If you bring enough for yourself, you better bring enough for
everyone.
;-)

| The reason I'm posting though, is to inform you of what I eventually
| found to be the reason for the crashes. I had a RAM chip go
| bad...everything worked well until Acad or Windows or whatever tried
| to access that one little bit in that one chip...at which point
| *POOF* Acad just up and left the building, taking the $SV file with
| it. Since replacing that RAM module I have not had one crash where I
| didn't have the $SV file. Not that I have that many crashes, most
| come from my attempt at programming something and I forget to supply
| a way out of a loop.

This is interesting and if this crash becomes habit I will look into it, but
this is the first time I have had this crash on this machine. Thanks for
the insight!

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Dr. After
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Message 75 of 119

Anonymous
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Well, I have several machines. The one with the R2002, has
Win98 / no service packs......just OEM version. (part of the
problem). Explorer does strange things also, like dialog box
for opening a File - doesn't sort by name by default....just
sorts random. But, that's another story. For your case, what
I would do is to go into Windows .. System Tools .. System Information....and see if you can detect any strange stuff in there. Also, go into Windows, System, Performance Tab, and
add more swap space (if not maxed out now). You could also
check I-O (hardware profiles), to see if there are any Interrupts that have a conflict. Also, shutting down, and pulling out your Memory Card(s), and re-seating them sometimes helps. Just some things to check.
Bob
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Message 76 of 119

Anonymous
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while I'm trying to fix this, please the code is open, anyone can do the
adjustments necessary on the mean time....

I made mistakes too..... 🙂

For example no one noticed that there is an error if we have the MDI stuff
like more than two drawings at the time open... the code will fail.... or
actually it will overwrite any other "*.SV$" to the current drawing that we
have focus.....




"Dr. After" wrote in message
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*Gary Fowler* typed them thar words:

| The autosave file is now six times the size of the original file on
| the network...
| its not getting smaller.

I wonder what will happen if you just let it keep growing? This is kind of
like the anticipation you get when you put aluminum foil in the microwave
and press "start"! And now we wait....

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Dr. After
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Message 77 of 119

Anonymous
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As an experiment I open one of the BAK_ files and saved it....it went back
to a normal size.

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Gary Fowler - Architect
gdfowler@hotmail.com
"Luis Esquivel" wrote in message
news:4863946@discussion.autodesk.com...
while I'm trying to fix this, please the code is open, anyone can do the
adjustments necessary on the mean time....

I made mistakes too..... 🙂

For example no one noticed that there is an error if we have the MDI stuff
like more than two drawings at the time open... the code will fail.... or
actually it will overwrite any other "*.SV$" to the current drawing that we
have focus.....




"Dr. After" wrote in message
news:4863942@discussion.autodesk.com...
*Gary Fowler* typed them thar words:

| The autosave file is now six times the size of the original file on
| the network...
| its not getting smaller.

I wonder what will happen if you just let it keep growing? This is kind of
like the anticipation you get when you put aluminum foil in the microwave
and press "start"! And now we wait....

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Dr. After
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Message 78 of 119

Anonymous
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"Luis Esquivel" wrote in message
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I made mistakes too..... 🙂


NO!!!! Say it ain't so!

;-)
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Message 79 of 119

Anonymous
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And no Luis you are not fired.

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Gary Fowler - Architect
gdfowler@hotmail.com
"Jeff Mishler" wrote in message
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"Luis Esquivel" wrote in message
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I made mistakes too..... 🙂


NO!!!! Say it ain't so!

;-)
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Message 80 of 119

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*ECCAD* typed them thar words:

| Win98 / no service packs

OMG! I don't think I can offer any more assistance until you at least
instal sp1. I didn't even think 2002 would install and run on 98!

| For your case, what
| I would do is to go into Windows .. System Tools .. System
| Information....and see if you can detect any strange stuff in there.
| Also, go into Windows, System, Performance Tab, and
| add more swap space (if not maxed out now). You could also
| check I-O (hardware profiles), to see if there are any Interrupts
| that have a conflict. Also, shutting down, and pulling out your
| Memory Card(s), and re-seating them sometimes helps. Just some things
| to check.

I poked around in there and the only things around that time of day was a
browser warning, then browser error. I don't think I had it open though.
Come to think of it, yesterday when I logged out of my account it said it
was waiting to close IE, whihc had not been open for a while. I wonder if
windows is having some problems?

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Dr. After
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