HPGL2 component

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Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA programmers?

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A sincere, "you're welcome". -- ---- Ed ---- "TAPXYH" wrote in message news:41ae6023$1_3@newsprd01... > I take all your comments. Next time I will try to be more specific... > Thanks > > > "Ed Jobe" wrote in message > news:41ae5e5a_3@newsprd01... > > Its obvious now. People come here all the time with one-liners and several > > posts later, you find out what you offered as "help" wasn't what they > wanted > > at all. They just didn't know how to ask the right question, or one that > > didn't elicit unwanted/wrong answers. I didn't think it would require an > NDA > > for him to say "I want to view it", which BTW is relevant. And since there > > are plenty of controls out there, which one would I have suggested without > > knowing anything about his needs? There are a lot of beginners that want > to > > plot hpgl and don't know you can do it with a dos command. Providing him > > with a control may have been overkill. How was I to know without asking? I > > was only trying to be helpful. But if this is what it gets me, I'll just > sit > > back and let you and Jorge offer your kind of "help". > > > > -- > > ---- > > Ed > > ---- > > "Tony Tanzillo" wrote in message > > news:41ae4788$1_1@newsprd01... > > > "Ed Jobe" wrote in message > > news:41adf5fa$1_2@newsprd01... > > > Thank you for your observations, guys. but, while you both are > technically > > correct, I wasn't trying to provide a > > > definition of ActiveX, just an analogy that was applicable to this case > > since he didn't understand my request for > > > clarification of his purpose. > > > > > > It really has nothing to do the specifics of his application WRT HPGL. > > > > > > You were equating a file format with ActiveX, and suggesting that > > > there was something mutually exclusive about the two. > > > > > > >> He didn't ask for a control to "handle" or "access" hpgl files... > > > > > > He didn't have to, when it is perfectly obvious. > > > > > > Unless you want to sign a NDA with him, I think you should > > > consider being a bit less inquisitive about specifics, when they > > > not directly relevant to the question. > > > > > > There are plenty of ActiveX libraries that deal with HPGL files, > > > and I don't see how the specifics of what he wants to use one > > > of them for, is something you or I needs to know. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > http://www.caddzone.com > > > > > > AcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2004/2005 > > > http://www.acadxtabs.com > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Oh come on man, let's not start that again !! -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Ed Jobe" wrote in message news:41ae5700$1_3@newsprd01... Again you're absolutely right. It must have been me...you never do anything wrong. -- ---- Ed ---- "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message news:41ae4bad_1@newsprd01... Sorry Ed, but you got into this mess by yourself. -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Ed Jobe" wrote in message news:41ae3be6_1@newsprd01... Sheesh guys. Gimme a break. No you don't need a lawyer. Your only criteria at first was Free ActiveX. Somewhere in the middle would be nice. For all I knew, you may have only wanted to delete hpgl files. I'm not a mind reader. When people come here asking for help with a vague request and they don't bother to provide any background, I don't assume what the background is. I don't have time to go do a ton of research if you've already done it. Half the time when people come here with vague questions, they don't get any replies. I just try to get things started by asking for some more specifics so we know which direction to go in when we do try to help you. If you bite the hand that feeds you, people will be less likely to help you with future requests. My other comments were directed to Jorge. -- ---- Ed ----

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Hey hey , don't say that. I'm not ganging up on you with that somebody else. We's like having a cat and a mouse in the same bag. -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Ed Jobe" wrote in message news:41ae5e5a_3@newsprd01... > Its obvious now. People come here all the time with one-liners and several > posts later, you find out what you offered as "help" wasn't what they > wanted > at all. They just didn't know how to ask the right question, or one that > didn't elicit unwanted/wrong answers. I didn't think it would require an > NDA > for him to say "I want to view it", which BTW is relevant. And since there > are plenty of controls out there, which one would I have suggested without > knowing anything about his needs? There are a lot of beginners that want > to > plot hpgl and don't know you can do it with a dos command. Providing him > with a control may have been overkill. How was I to know without asking? I > was only trying to be helpful. But if this is what it gets me, I'll just > sit > back and let you and Jorge offer your kind of "help". > > -- > ---- > Ed > ---- > "Tony Tanzillo" wrote in message > news:41ae4788$1_1@newsprd01... >> "Ed Jobe" wrote in message > news:41adf5fa$1_2@newsprd01... >> Thank you for your observations, guys. but, while you both are >> technically > correct, I wasn't trying to provide a >> definition of ActiveX, just an analogy that was applicable to this case > since he didn't understand my request for >> clarification of his purpose. >> >> It really has nothing to do the specifics of his application WRT HPGL. >> >> You were equating a file format with ActiveX, and suggesting that >> there was something mutually exclusive about the two. >> >> >> He didn't ask for a control to "handle" or "access" hpgl files... >> >> He didn't have to, when it is perfectly obvious. >> >> Unless you want to sign a NDA with him, I think you should >> consider being a bit less inquisitive about specifics, when they >> not directly relevant to the question. >> >> There are plenty of ActiveX libraries that deal with HPGL files, >> and I don't see how the specifics of what he wants to use one >> of them for, is something you or I needs to know. >> >> >> -- >> http://www.caddzone.com >> >> AcadXTabs: MDI Document Tabs for AutoCAD 2004/2005 >> http://www.acadxtabs.com >> >> > >

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I can’t believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless discussion. On Ed’s defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing the purpose, I don’t think he wanted details; he could have been able to provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of simply saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. Up to here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is Tony the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any help or suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can find the definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don’t like, they just come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good attitude and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to do. By trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group useless because people would think twice before offering their help. Please keep this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us all.

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NOT reading the posts seems to be the problem here. Let's step through the posts (I will add my comments with a --->) TAPXYH: Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA programmers? ED: What are you trying to do? TAPXYH: I ask my girlfriend's hand and my future father in low ask me to get an ActiveX component for previewing a PLT file. So I'm looking... TAPXYH: Just kidding. I need that for my VB programming... ---> Nothing wrong with a little humor ---> Did you noticed he said PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ??? BLAIR THE LAIR: Mine asked for a linetype viewer (OCX) I did not marry... ED: Its obvious you need it for programming, but what task do you need to accomplish. ---> Seems like Ed skipped the part where TAPXYH says PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ActiveX is for objects, whereas, hpgl is a specification for a file type. Its like asking for an ActiveX for dwg when you need it for Autocad, the object that manipulates the dwg file. Since you are asking the wrong question, it would help us if you explained what you are trying to do. ----> Ed is coming down hard on TAPXYH but also states that ActiveX is for objects... ----> So I come in to clear up Ed's misconception of ActiveX and state that there is nothing wrong with TAPXYHs question. JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one is simple and clear: "A programming methodology that was developed by Microsoft and can be used to isolate software components and build functions using those components" So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control to handle HPGL files. -----> I don't see where I'm trashing anything here, just helping clear things up. -----> Am I calling Ed names, or saying something harsh to Ed ?? So HJohn, why are you attacking me ? -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "HJohn" wrote in message news:20790605.1101998106886.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... >I can't believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless discussion. >On Ed's defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing the >purpose, I don't think he wanted details; he could have been able to >provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of simply >saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. Up to >here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is Tony >the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any help or >suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can find the >definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the >Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don't like, they just >come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good attitude >and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to do. By >trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group useless >because people would think twice before offering their help. Please keep >this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us all.

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Looks like I did miss the part about viewing. Guess I didn't take it seriously because he said it was coming from someone else. Thank you for pointing that out, albeit a little big late. But I still wasn't coming down hard. Just trying to clarify what I needed to proceed. Up to the point you record here, you weren't harsh. Its your comments after I accepted your clarification. -- ---- Ed ---- "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message news:41af68fc$1_2@newsprd01... > NOT reading the posts seems to be the problem here. > Let's step through the posts (I will add my comments with a --->) > > > TAPXYH: Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA > programmers? > ED: What are you trying to do? > TAPXYH: I ask my girlfriend's hand and my future father in low ask me to > get an > ActiveX component for previewing a PLT file. So I'm looking... > TAPXYH: Just kidding. > I need that for my VB programming... > > ---> Nothing wrong with a little humor > ---> Did you noticed he said PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ??? > > BLAIR THE LAIR: Mine asked for a linetype viewer (OCX) I did not marry... > > ED: Its obvious you need it for programming, but what task do you need to > accomplish. > > ---> Seems like Ed skipped the part where TAPXYH says PREVIEWING A PLT FILE > > ActiveX is for objects, whereas, hpgl is a specification for a file type. > Its like asking for an ActiveX for dwg when you need it for Autocad, the > object that manipulates the dwg file. > > Since you are asking the wrong question, it would help us if you explained > what you are trying to do. > > ----> Ed is coming down hard on TAPXYH but also states that ActiveX is for > objects... > ----> So I come in to clear up Ed's misconception of ActiveX and state that > there is nothing wrong with TAPXYHs question. > > JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX > There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one > is simple and clear: > "A programming methodology that was developed > by Microsoft and can be used to isolate > software components and build functions > using those components" > > So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control > to handle HPGL files. > > -----> I don't see where I'm trashing anything here, just helping clear > things up. > -----> Am I calling Ed names, or saying something harsh to Ed ?? > > So HJohn, why are you attacking me ? > > -- > Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica > > "HJohn" wrote in message > news:20790605.1101998106886.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... > >I can't believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless discussion. > >On Ed's defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing the > >purpose, I don't think he wanted details; he could have been able to > >provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of simply > >saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. Up to > >here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is Tony > >the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any help or > >suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can find the > >definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the > >Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don't like, they just > >come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good attitude > >and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to do. By > >trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group useless > >because people would think twice before offering their help. Please keep > >this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us all. > >

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Ed, let's rewind the tape to see where I'm harsh to you JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one is simple and clear: "A programming methodology that was developed by Microsoft and can be used to isolate software components and build functions using those components" So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control to handle HPGL files. ED: Thank you for your observations, guys. but, while you both are technically correct, I wasn't trying to provide a definition of ActiveX, just an analogy that was applicable to this case since he didn't understand my request for clarification of his purpose. He didn't ask for a control to "handle" or "access" hpgl files. In fact he didn't specify anything that he wanted to do. What if he wants something to translate hpgl files? If he had been more specific about what he wanted, both/either of you should have provided him with it. At least your additional comments are there for others to read. However, What I said is not really at odds with you either. I was speaking from a point of view of general practice, not theory. Your definition said, "can be used", whereas I was talking about what is used in a specific case. Generally, you won't see an ActiveX control that represents just the file structure of a dwg, or xls or doc (admittedly I'm stating this without doing an exhaustive search). But you *might* find something that *manipulates* the file in some way. What I was trying to draw out of him is, what manner he desired to manipulate an hpgl file. Without that, all I can tell him is "go Google it". ----> Again, it's because you missed the PREVIEWING THE PLT FILE bit JORGE: He probably already Googled it cause there are ActiveX components to handle HPGL but not for free !!! He was asking for a free one. I haven't seen one. ----> Ed, where is the harshness here ??? TAPXYH: I would like to "...see an ActiveX control that represents just the file structure of a ... " PLT file and draws it on image/picture. I need a lawyer here... :) similar to "HatchPattern.ocx", "DwgThumbnail.ocx" where some method, say, .FileName, can be pointed to a file and be loaded in sizable image. I don't want to go in to whish-list details about properties and methods. ----> More of his humor, what a funny guy eh ??? USER0: I thought that's what COM is? ----> Everyone wants to join in the fun ED: Sheesh guys. Gimme a break. No you don't need a lawyer. Your only criteria at first was Free ActiveX. Somewhere in the middle would be nice. For all I knew, you may have only wanted to delete hpgl files. I'm not a mind reader. When people come here asking for help with a vague request and they don't bother to provide any background, I don't assume what the background is. I don't have time to go do a ton of research if you've already done it. Half the time when people come here with vague questions, they don't get any replies. I just try to get things started by asking for some more specifics so we know which direction to go in when we do try to help you. If you bite the hand that feeds you, people will be less likely to help you with future requests. My other comments were directed to Jorge. ----> Loosing your grip here ?? Why take it out on me ??? JORGE: Sorry Ed, but you got into this mess by yourself. ---> Your were getting hit, but not by ME !! so this is my harshest comment to date. ED: Again you're absolutely right. It must have been me...you never do anything wrong. ----> Guess who's the one making the harsh comment ??? JORGE: Oh come on man, let's not start that again !! ED: Its obvious now. People come here all the time with one-liners and several posts later, you find out what you offered as "help" wasn't what they wanted at all. They just didn't know how to ask the right question, or one that didn't elicit unwanted/wrong answers. I didn't think it would require an NDA for him to say "I want to view it", which BTW is relevant. And since there are plenty of controls out there, which one would I have suggested without knowing anything about his needs? There are a lot of beginners that want to plot hpgl and don't know you can do it with a dos command. Providing him with a control may have been overkill. How was I to know without asking? I was only trying to be helpful. But if this is what it gets me, I'll just sit back and let you and Jorge offer your kind of "help". ----> And all because Ed didn't read the PREVIEWING comment from the beginning. JORGE: Hey hey , don't say that. I'm not ganging up on you with that somebody else. We's like having a cat and a mouse in the same bag. ----> Ahh, this is where you might get a hint of where this post got all mixed up. -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Ed Jobe" wrote in message news:41af6be6$1_2@newsprd01... > Looks like I did miss the part about viewing. Guess I didn't take it > seriously because he said it was coming from someone else. Thank you for > pointing that out, albeit a little big late. But I still wasn't coming > down > hard. Just trying to clarify what I needed to proceed. Up to the point you > record here, you weren't harsh. Its your comments after I accepted your > clarification. > > -- > ---- > Ed > ---- > "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message > news:41af68fc$1_2@newsprd01... >> NOT reading the posts seems to be the problem here. >> Let's step through the posts (I will add my comments with a --->) >> >> >> TAPXYH: Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA >> programmers? >> ED: What are you trying to do? >> TAPXYH: I ask my girlfriend's hand and my future father in low ask me to >> get an >> ActiveX component for previewing a PLT file. So I'm looking... >> TAPXYH: Just kidding. >> I need that for my VB programming... >> >> ---> Nothing wrong with a little humor >> ---> Did you noticed he said PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ??? >> >> BLAIR THE LAIR: Mine asked for a linetype viewer (OCX) I did not marry... >> >> ED: Its obvious you need it for programming, but what task do you need to >> accomplish. >> >> ---> Seems like Ed skipped the part where TAPXYH says PREVIEWING A PLT > FILE >> >> ActiveX is for objects, whereas, hpgl is a specification for a file type. >> Its like asking for an ActiveX for dwg when you need it for Autocad, the >> object that manipulates the dwg file. >> >> Since you are asking the wrong question, it would help us if you >> explained >> what you are trying to do. >> >> ----> Ed is coming down hard on TAPXYH but also states that ActiveX is >> for >> objects... >> ----> So I come in to clear up Ed's misconception of ActiveX and state > that >> there is nothing wrong with TAPXYHs question. >> >> JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX >> There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one >> is simple and clear: >> "A programming methodology that was developed >> by Microsoft and can be used to isolate >> software components and build functions >> using those components" >> >> So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control >> to handle HPGL files. >> >> -----> I don't see where I'm trashing anything here, just helping clear >> things up. >> -----> Am I calling Ed names, or saying something harsh to Ed ?? >> >> So HJohn, why are you attacking me ? >> >> -- >> Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica >> >> "HJohn" wrote in message >> news:20790605.1101998106886.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... >> >I can't believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless > discussion. >> >On Ed's defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing the >> >purpose, I don't think he wanted details; he could have been able to >> >provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of simply >> >saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. Up > to >> >here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is >> >Tony >> >the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any help > or >> >suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can find > the >> >definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the >> >Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don't like, they >> >just >> >come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good > attitude >> >and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to do. > By >> >trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group useless >> >because people would think twice before offering their help. Please >> >keep >> >this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us all. >> >> > >

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Excuse me if I misunderstood you. I don't know how we got on opposite sides of the fence, but let's just forget about past differences and shake hands...or whatever you do in email land? -- ---- Ed ---- "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message news:41af7215_3@newsprd01... > Ed, let's rewind the tape to see where I'm harsh to you > > JORGE: > Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX > There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one > is simple and clear: > "A programming methodology that was developed > by Microsoft and can be used to isolate > software components and build functions > using those components" > > So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control > to handle HPGL files. > > ED: > Thank you for your observations, guys. but, while you both are technically > correct, I wasn't trying to provide a definition of ActiveX, just an analogy > that was applicable to this case since he didn't understand my request for > clarification of his purpose. He didn't ask for a control to "handle" or > "access" hpgl files. In fact he didn't specify anything that he wanted to > do. What if he wants something to translate hpgl files? If he had been more > specific about what he wanted, both/either of you should have provided him > with it. At least your additional comments are there for others to read. > > However, What I said is not really at odds with you either. I was speaking > from a point of view of general practice, not theory. Your definition said, > "can be used", whereas I was talking about what is used in a specific case. > Generally, you won't see an ActiveX control that represents just the file > structure of a dwg, or xls or doc (admittedly I'm stating this without doing > an exhaustive search). But you *might* find something that *manipulates* the > file in some way. What I was trying to draw out of him is, what manner he > desired to manipulate an hpgl file. Without that, all I can tell him is "go > Google it". > > ----> Again, it's because you missed the PREVIEWING THE PLT FILE bit > > JORGE: > He probably already Googled it > cause there are ActiveX components > to handle HPGL but not for free !!! > > He was asking for a free one. > I haven't seen one. > > ----> Ed, where is the harshness here ??? > > TAPXYH: > I would like to "...see an ActiveX control that represents just the file > structure of a ... " PLT file and draws it on image/picture. I need a lawyer > here... :) > > similar to "HatchPattern.ocx", "DwgThumbnail.ocx" where some method, say, > .FileName, can be pointed to a file and be loaded in sizable > image. I don't want to go in to whish-list details about properties and > methods. > > > ----> More of his humor, what a funny guy eh ??? > > USER0: > I thought that's what COM is? > > ----> Everyone wants to join in the fun > > ED: > Sheesh guys. Gimme a break. No you don't need a lawyer. Your only criteria > at first was Free ActiveX. Somewhere in the middle would be nice. For all I > knew, you may have only wanted to delete hpgl files. I'm not a mind reader. > When people come here asking for help with a vague request and they don't > bother to provide any background, I don't assume what the background is. I > don't have time to go do a ton of research if you've already done it. Half > the time when people come here with vague questions, they don't get any > replies. I just try to get things started by asking for some more specifics > so we know which direction to go in when we do try to help you. If you bite > the hand that feeds you, people will be less likely to help you with future > requests. My other comments were directed to Jorge. > > ----> Loosing your grip here ?? Why take it out on me ??? > > JORGE: > Sorry Ed, but you got into this mess by yourself. > > ---> Your were getting hit, but not by ME !! so this is my harshest comment > to date. > > ED: > Again you're absolutely right. It must have been me...you never do anything > wrong. > > ----> Guess who's the one making the harsh comment ??? > > JORGE: > Oh come on man, let's not start that again !! > > > ED: > Its obvious now. People come here all the time with one-liners and several > posts later, you find out what you offered as "help" wasn't what they wanted > at all. They just didn't know how to ask the right question, or one that > didn't elicit unwanted/wrong answers. I didn't think it would require an NDA > for him to say "I want to view it", which BTW is relevant. And since there > are plenty of controls out there, which one would I have suggested without > knowing anything about his needs? There are a lot of beginners that want to > plot hpgl and don't know you can do it with a dos command. Providing him > with a control may have been overkill. How was I to know without asking? I > was only trying to be helpful. But if this is what it gets me, I'll just sit > back and let you and Jorge offer your kind of "help". > > ----> And all because Ed didn't read the PREVIEWING comment from the > beginning. > > > JORGE: > Hey hey , don't say that. > I'm not ganging up on you > with that somebody else. > We's like having a cat and > a mouse in the same bag. > > ----> Ahh, this is where you might get a hint of where this post got all > mixed up. > > -- > Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica > > "Ed Jobe" wrote in message > news:41af6be6$1_2@newsprd01... > > Looks like I did miss the part about viewing. Guess I didn't take it > > seriously because he said it was coming from someone else. Thank you for > > pointing that out, albeit a little big late. But I still wasn't coming > > down > > hard. Just trying to clarify what I needed to proceed. Up to the point you > > record here, you weren't harsh. Its your comments after I accepted your > > clarification. > > > > -- > > ---- > > Ed > > ---- > > "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message > > news:41af68fc$1_2@newsprd01... > >> NOT reading the posts seems to be the problem here. > >> Let's step through the posts (I will add my comments with a --->) > >> > >> > >> TAPXYH: Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA > >> programmers? > >> ED: What are you trying to do? > >> TAPXYH: I ask my girlfriend's hand and my future father in low ask me to > >> get an > >> ActiveX component for previewing a PLT file. So I'm looking... > >> TAPXYH: Just kidding. > >> I need that for my VB programming... > >> > >> ---> Nothing wrong with a little humor > >> ---> Did you noticed he said PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ??? > >> > >> BLAIR THE LAIR: Mine asked for a linetype viewer (OCX) I did not marry... > >> > >> ED: Its obvious you need it for programming, but what task do you need to > >> accomplish. > >> > >> ---> Seems like Ed skipped the part where TAPXYH says PREVIEWING A PLT > > FILE > >> > >> ActiveX is for objects, whereas, hpgl is a specification for a file type. > >> Its like asking for an ActiveX for dwg when you need it for Autocad, the > >> object that manipulates the dwg file. > >> > >> Since you are asking the wrong question, it would help us if you > >> explained > >> what you are trying to do. > >> > >> ----> Ed is coming down hard on TAPXYH but also states that ActiveX is > >> for > >> objects... > >> ----> So I come in to clear up Ed's misconception of ActiveX and state > > that > >> there is nothing wrong with TAPXYHs question. > >> > >> JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX > >> There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one > >> is simple and clear: > >> "A programming methodology that was developed > >> by Microsoft and can be used to isolate > >> software components and build functions > >> using those components" > >> > >> So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control > >> to handle HPGL files. > >> > >> -----> I don't see where I'm trashing anything here, just helping clear > >> things up. > >> -----> Am I calling Ed names, or saying something harsh to Ed ?? > >> > >> So HJohn, why are you attacking me ? > >> > >> -- > >> Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica > >> > >> "HJohn" wrote in message > >> news:20790605.1101998106886.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... > >> >I can't believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless > > discussion. > >> >On Ed's defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing the > >> >purpose, I don't think he wanted details; he could have been able to > >> >provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of simply > >> >saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. Up > > to > >> >here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is > >> >Tony > >> >the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any help > > or > >> >suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can find > > the > >> >definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the > >> >Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don't like, they > >> >just > >> >come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good > > attitude > >> >and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to do. > > By > >> >trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group useless > >> >because people would think twice before offering their help. Please > >> >keep > >> >this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us all. > >> > >> > > > > > >

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We shake IPs It's all forgotten. -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Ed Jobe" wrote in message news:41af75ca$1_1@newsprd01... > Excuse me if I misunderstood you. I don't know how we got on opposite > sides > of the fence, but let's just forget about past differences and shake > hands...or whatever you do in email land? > > -- > ---- > Ed > ---- > "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message > news:41af7215_3@newsprd01... >> Ed, let's rewind the tape to see where I'm harsh to you >> >> JORGE: >> Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX >> There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one >> is simple and clear: >> "A programming methodology that was developed >> by Microsoft and can be used to isolate >> software components and build functions >> using those components" >> >> So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control >> to handle HPGL files. >> >> ED: >> Thank you for your observations, guys. but, while you both are >> technically >> correct, I wasn't trying to provide a definition of ActiveX, just an > analogy >> that was applicable to this case since he didn't understand my request >> for >> clarification of his purpose. He didn't ask for a control to "handle" or >> "access" hpgl files. In fact he didn't specify anything that he wanted to >> do. What if he wants something to translate hpgl files? If he had been > more >> specific about what he wanted, both/either of you should have provided >> him >> with it. At least your additional comments are there for others to read. >> >> However, What I said is not really at odds with you either. I was >> speaking >> from a point of view of general practice, not theory. Your definition > said, >> "can be used", whereas I was talking about what is used in a specific > case. >> Generally, you won't see an ActiveX control that represents just the file >> structure of a dwg, or xls or doc (admittedly I'm stating this without > doing >> an exhaustive search). But you *might* find something that *manipulates* > the >> file in some way. What I was trying to draw out of him is, what manner he >> desired to manipulate an hpgl file. Without that, all I can tell him is > "go >> Google it". >> >> ----> Again, it's because you missed the PREVIEWING THE PLT FILE bit >> >> JORGE: >> He probably already Googled it >> cause there are ActiveX components >> to handle HPGL but not for free !!! >> >> He was asking for a free one. >> I haven't seen one. >> >> ----> Ed, where is the harshness here ??? >> >> TAPXYH: >> I would like to "...see an ActiveX control that represents just the file >> structure of a ... " PLT file and draws it on image/picture. I need a > lawyer >> here... :) >> >> similar to "HatchPattern.ocx", "DwgThumbnail.ocx" where some method, say, >> .FileName, can be pointed to a file and be loaded in sizable >> image. I don't want to go in to whish-list details about properties and >> methods. >> >> >> ----> More of his humor, what a funny guy eh ??? >> >> USER0: >> I thought that's what COM is? >> >> ----> Everyone wants to join in the fun >> >> ED: >> Sheesh guys. Gimme a break. No you don't need a lawyer. Your only >> criteria >> at first was Free ActiveX. Somewhere in the middle would be nice. For all > I >> knew, you may have only wanted to delete hpgl files. I'm not a mind > reader. >> When people come here asking for help with a vague request and they don't >> bother to provide any background, I don't assume what the background is. >> I >> don't have time to go do a ton of research if you've already done it. >> Half >> the time when people come here with vague questions, they don't get any >> replies. I just try to get things started by asking for some more > specifics >> so we know which direction to go in when we do try to help you. If you > bite >> the hand that feeds you, people will be less likely to help you with > future >> requests. My other comments were directed to Jorge. >> >> ----> Loosing your grip here ?? Why take it out on me ??? >> >> JORGE: >> Sorry Ed, but you got into this mess by yourself. >> >> ---> Your were getting hit, but not by ME !! so this is my harshest > comment >> to date. >> >> ED: >> Again you're absolutely right. It must have been me...you never do > anything >> wrong. >> >> ----> Guess who's the one making the harsh comment ??? >> >> JORGE: >> Oh come on man, let's not start that again !! >> >> >> ED: >> Its obvious now. People come here all the time with one-liners and >> several >> posts later, you find out what you offered as "help" wasn't what they > wanted >> at all. They just didn't know how to ask the right question, or one that >> didn't elicit unwanted/wrong answers. I didn't think it would require an > NDA >> for him to say "I want to view it", which BTW is relevant. And since >> there >> are plenty of controls out there, which one would I have suggested >> without >> knowing anything about his needs? There are a lot of beginners that want > to >> plot hpgl and don't know you can do it with a dos command. Providing him >> with a control may have been overkill. How was I to know without asking? >> I >> was only trying to be helpful. But if this is what it gets me, I'll just > sit >> back and let you and Jorge offer your kind of "help". >> >> ----> And all because Ed didn't read the PREVIEWING comment from the >> beginning. >> >> >> JORGE: >> Hey hey , don't say that. >> I'm not ganging up on you >> with that somebody else. >> We's like having a cat and >> a mouse in the same bag. >> >> ----> Ahh, this is where you might get a hint of where this post got all >> mixed up. >> >> -- >> Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica >> >> "Ed Jobe" wrote in message >> news:41af6be6$1_2@newsprd01... >> > Looks like I did miss the part about viewing. Guess I didn't take it >> > seriously because he said it was coming from someone else. Thank you >> > for >> > pointing that out, albeit a little big late. But I still wasn't coming >> > down >> > hard. Just trying to clarify what I needed to proceed. Up to the point > you >> > record here, you weren't harsh. Its your comments after I accepted your >> > clarification. >> > >> > -- >> > ---- >> > Ed >> > ---- >> > "Jorge Jimenez" wrote in message >> > news:41af68fc$1_2@newsprd01... >> >> NOT reading the posts seems to be the problem here. >> >> Let's step through the posts (I will add my comments with a --->) >> >> >> >> >> >> TAPXYH: Is there any free HPGL/HPGL2 ActiveX component for VB/VBA >> >> programmers? >> >> ED: What are you trying to do? >> >> TAPXYH: I ask my girlfriend's hand and my future father in low ask me > to >> >> get an >> >> ActiveX component for previewing a PLT file. So I'm looking... >> >> TAPXYH: Just kidding. >> >> I need that for my VB programming... >> >> >> >> ---> Nothing wrong with a little humor >> >> ---> Did you noticed he said PREVIEWING A PLT FILE ??? >> >> >> >> BLAIR THE LAIR: Mine asked for a linetype viewer (OCX) I did not > marry... >> >> >> >> ED: Its obvious you need it for programming, but what task do you need > to >> >> accomplish. >> >> >> >> ---> Seems like Ed skipped the part where TAPXYH says PREVIEWING A PLT >> > FILE >> >> >> >> ActiveX is for objects, whereas, hpgl is a specification for a file > type. >> >> Its like asking for an ActiveX for dwg when you need it for Autocad, > the >> >> object that manipulates the dwg file. >> >> >> >> Since you are asking the wrong question, it would help us if you >> >> explained >> >> what you are trying to do. >> >> >> >> ----> Ed is coming down hard on TAPXYH but also states that ActiveX is >> >> for >> >> objects... >> >> ----> So I come in to clear up Ed's misconception of ActiveX and state >> > that >> >> there is nothing wrong with TAPXYHs question. >> >> >> >> JORGE: Ed, you seem to have the wrong definition for ActiveX >> >> There are many ways to define ActiveX but this one >> >> is simple and clear: >> >> "A programming methodology that was developed >> >> by Microsoft and can be used to isolate >> >> software components and build functions >> >> using those components" >> >> >> >> So there is nothing wrong in asking for an ActiveX control >> >> to handle HPGL files. >> >> >> >> -----> I don't see where I'm trashing anything here, just helping >> >> clear >> >> things up. >> >> -----> Am I calling Ed names, or saying something harsh to Ed ?? >> >> >> >> So HJohn, why are you attacking me ? >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica >> >> >> >> "HJohn" wrote in message >> >> news:20790605.1101998106886.JavaMail.jive@jiveforum1.autodesk.com... >> >> >I can't believe how much time has been wasted in a meaningless >> > discussion. >> >> >On Ed's defense, I think his was a legitimate question. By knowing > the >> >> >purpose, I don't think he wanted details; he could have been able to >> >> >provide a better answer. TAPXYH replied with sarcasm, instead of > simply >> >> >saying that he just wanted a view or modify or whatever a PLT file. > Up >> > to >> >> >here it could have been OK. My problem is with Tony and Jorge. Is >> >> >Tony >> >> >the God of AutoCAD customization? They did not join to provide any > help >> > or >> >> >suggestion. They just showed the size of their ego. Any body can > find >> > the >> >> >definition of ActiveX in the documentation. Are they member of the >> >> >Discussion Group Police? If you say something they don't like, they >> >> >just >> >> >come in and thrash your comments, is that it? Attitude, with good >> > attitude >> >> >and intentions you can be a better help, if that is what you want to > do. >> > By >> >> >trashing other people comments, you make this discussion group >> >> >useless >> >> >because people would think twice before offering their help. Please >> >> >keep >> >> >this group simple, friendly and helpful, it would be better for us > all. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

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> We shake IPs Is that even allowed on a public newsgroup? <:) -- Owen Wengerd President, ManuSoft ==> http://www.manusoft.com VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. ==> http://www.cadlock.com

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Oops, Anne must have been asleep !!! -- Saludos, Ing. Jorge Jimenez, SICAD S.A., Costa Rica "Owen Wengerd" wrote in message news:41b10ad3_3@newsprd01... >> We shake IPs > > Is that even allowed on a public newsgroup? <:) > -- > Owen Wengerd > President, ManuSoft ==> http://www.manusoft.com > VP Americas, CADLock, Inc. ==> http://www.cadlock.com > >