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ihayesjr, users don't care that mass is a calculated field. They just want it present in there Items.
Please no funny business. It's basically outrages that this is the case. fix this asap. I think i heard something about "Vault& Inventor working seamless". This is the perfect example that vault is not there yet.
Yes we fixed this with rules. And at best it works most of the time.
I started reviewing the workaround in the AKN article and found there are a number of steps missing. For more experienced folks they are relatively easy to overcome. But its not completely obvious. So I have updated the steps for clarity. Because this is still a wish, I've moved the steps here. The AKN Article now points to this Vault Idea.
1. In Inventors Application Options, on the "General" tab, under "Physical properties", tick "Update physical properties on save", and select "Parts and Assemblies".
2. Open a new ipt that contains physical geometry.
3. In Inventor, under the Document Settings options, on the Unit tab, set the "Mass" unit to "gram".
4. In the Inventor file(s) (IPT and IAM), create a custom iProperty named, for example, "MyMass", set the Type to "Text" and set its value to: =<mass>.
5. Check the file into Vault.
6. In the thick Vault click, click Tools > Administration > Vault Settings.
7. Go to the "Behaviors" tab.
8. In the Properties section, click "Properties".
9. No, "Mass" property exists in Vault by default, so create a "User Defined Property" (UDP) by clicking "New".
10. Give the new UDP a Name, select Type = "Text", and associate it to a Category. Ensure the Entity = File, Provider = Inventor.
11. Click the "File Property" pull down arrow, to reveal the "Import Properties" drop down. Select "Import From Vault".
12. Locate the file that was just check in to Vault and choose the "MyMass" Custom iProperty.
13. Ensure that the mapping is set to "File-to-Vault".
14. All Inventor .ipt files checked in to Vault from then, with that Custom iProperty will then have the mass displayed in grams.
The MASS property that contains the mass (in grams) of your part/assembly will now be available in Vault.
Tip: Create the custom iProperty in your templates to have the mass available for all or your model files.
Note: The MASS iProperty can only be obtained in grams. If you have a different unit set in the Inventor Document Settings, it will not work.
it is old and still so sad . We need the mass in kg - and no terrible workarounds with additional properties. It causes efforts and costs our money and drives my Design Team crazy hence they need the mass values as an important component property. So please do us the favor to implement reading the phsical mass in a selectable unit! (kg, ibs, tons or whatever the user needs) Should not be a big deal but for us it'll be very valueable!
Mass property (like other physical properties, for example, volume) is part of data company worklow (that very important for the ERP system). Mapping using iLogic or using "=<mass>" functions could work for the new file.
The problem is when you have to install Vault on hundred of thousand exsiting inventor file. It's not possible to reopen all the file to insert the "mass".
Autodesk Vault is a company data management and I agree that it's very important to have it.
I've used an basic iLogic routine to write the mass to "Subject" as this is already mapped to Vault, but you could create a custom iProperty as per the suggestion above and map that too. This workaround just means less mapping and no ADMS re-index. I wanted to share something that was easy for most users to implement.
Well, it's mid-way through 2022 and Vault still doesn't seem to include any options for pulling mass (or any other calculated properties) from Inventor to a defined property...
Oh, they're happy to include standard mappings for things like "Custom Object System Name", "Has Model State" and "iLogicRuleStatus", but I'm sure it's because those properties are VASTLY more useful than an absurdly niche thing like MASS could ever be...
I'm sure nobody's adding custom columns for weight / mass in Vault now PURELY because it's not a useful property, not because Autodesk makes you spend more time jumping through a series of hoops with custom iProperties and/or iLogic in order to try and set it up than most people are willing or able to put towards it.
On a serious note, I know the people at Autodesk probably work hard to put out great products and I greatly appreciate how much better Inventor and Vault have become over the years. But a property like mass/weight is such a seemingly basic thing to include (to me, at least) that I don't understand why it wasn't a standard option for property mapping years ago. Is it really time and/or labor intensive to make it happen?
Please, please, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeease can we get an easy, built-in way to map standard calculated properties between Inventor and Vault?
Our iLogic rule for writing mass is currently not working 100% of the time. It feels a bit inefficient that we're trying to solve/troubleshoot it per user, per customer, each with our own iLogic rule or solution.
We'd really prefer Vault Professional to have a configurable mapping of the mass too, since we've always been using "kg" as a unit.
Inventor and Vault communications should be seamless. Displaying a standard property in the Vault seems like a slam dunk for the Autodesk community of users.
I can only point out that we need this information downstream. It is becoming even more important with recent and upcoming legal requirements as plastic tax, product carbon footprint etc.
Engineering is the source of this information for all business processes.
Absolutely agree with all the comments on here. Please Autodesk take note, mass is one of the most important and useful properties to push from BoMs through to downstream systems. There seem to be lots of examples like this where software developers at Autodesk just don't understand customer needs.
I use this iLogic script (triggered before save) and then just map the Vault_Mass -iproperty to Vault. What it does: 1. Generate "Vault_Mass" iProperty, then update that property with Mass value from Physical properties.
And yeah, I'd rather map it directly from physical properties, but unfortunately it's not doable.
'Symetri Oy, 2025
'Matti Parviainen
'matti.parviainen@symetri.com
'Create and update Vault_Mass iProperty
Dim oPropSet As PropertySet = ThisDoc.Document.PropertySets.Item("Inventor User Defined Properties")
Try
oPropSet.Item("Vault_Mass").Value = iProperties.Mass
Catch
oPropSet.Add( iProperties.Mass, "Vault_Mass")
End Try
