Items - File Attachment Settings

Items - File Attachment Settings

steveh3
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Items - File Attachment Settings

steveh3
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Gang...Trying to get a better understanding of file links and the settings for Secondary, Standard Component, Primary Subcomponent, and Secondary Subcomponent might be used and why.

 

Item File Attachments.png

 

I referenced the Knowledge base article...

 

http://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/vault-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/ENU...

 

Helps a little but...trying to find good reason why we need so many.

 

We have used the Primary and Secondary for awhile, just haven't found a reason to use the others.

 

Any experience out there?

 

Thx,

 

Steve H.

Steve Hilvers
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bill.schwerin
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Steve,

 I'll try to answer your question by giving an examples of how each of these link types can be used.

 

  Standard Components  -  Standard Components exist in applications like AutoCAD Mechanical.  If you create an instance of a Content Center bolt, then a component for that bolt is fully defined in the assembly.  In theory, you could have thousands of drawings that all contain the exact same bolt component definition.  Since these definitions should never change, the standard component link did not care if it was up to date when changing the state of the linked item.  Note: This is now configurable in the new lifecycle engine.  (see below)

  Inventor doesn't use standard components.  Instead it creates a single ipt file for the bolt and has the various iam files reference the ipt file.

 

  Subcomponents - CAD files usually have a single root level component that is the main reason for the file's existence.  These files can also contain subcomponents that help flesh out the BOM for that component.  Virtual components  and part references are examples of subcomponents that can be created in a CAD file.  Often, customers want the root component and subcomponent links to be treated differently.

 

  In Vault Professional 2016, you can select specific link types on the lifecycle transition actions for:

  • Check that associated item file links are up to date.
  • Check that associated item file links are released.

   Example:  I have an IAM file with a virtual component called Grease.  I assign item to the file.  This creates an item for the assembly and another item called Grease.  The assembly item has a primary link to the assembly component in the file.  Grease has the file's virtual component as its primary subcomponent link.

 

  As an admin, I could set the transition actions up so that:

  • I can only release the assembly item if the link is current and the iam file is released
  • I could release the Grease item even if the link is stale and the iam file is in any state.

Bill Schwerin

Autodesk

Sr Principal Engineer

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steveh3
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Thanks for your input Bill as well as Kevin Robinson...also spoke with a your colleague Steve Brown...he also contributed to the conversation.

 

Might I add that subcomponent links for items can be turned off/on by admin/Vault settings as shown below... 

 

In our case we model all components (even virtual components). They all have a primary link so this scenario will probably get turned back off. Have to play around with this feature a little more to fully understand its potential and to determine if it fits our workflow.

 

 

Subcomponent links.jpg

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bill.schwerin
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If you are a customer that rarely uses virtual components or part references, then using subcomponent links won’t hurt. The links are kept up to date and the data flows back and forth between items and files.

 

If you have 1000’s of ACM files and each file averages dozens of part references, then the cost for updating all of those links can get expensive. Since the data on these part references rarely changes, some customers exchange the link updates for the better performance associated with standard component links.

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