Visually Rotated Bars, gamma angle = 0

Visually Rotated Bars, gamma angle = 0

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Visually Rotated Bars, gamma angle = 0

Anonymous
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A colleague set out a simple structure with any bar section gamma angles set to zero. Some of the columns seem to have defined a local bar definition differently to other columns of the same type, and as such appear to have a gamma angle applied.  This is as in the attached image, with several different versions of local axis as well.  Trying to change the bar in the geometry>properties>local bar direction seems to work some of the time.  I would like to know if others have come across this, why it happened in the first place and if there is a way to prevent it?

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @Anonymous

 

At the first glance it looks like that have their local Z axes pointing at the indicated node or object. Could you attach the model (or just the part visible on the picture you attached) and specify bar numbers to look at?



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Anonymous
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Hiya, so I have attached a cut down version of the model.  It is bars 6 10 11 14 16to18  that have the differing local directions.  Thanks

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @Anonymous

 

It seems that for some reason the model wasn't attached. try to zip it first and if this doesn't work try to use another internet browser.

 

If I managed to answer your question(s) press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solution(s) much faster. Thank you.



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Artur.Kosakowski
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HI @Anonymous

 

Disregard the previous post please. I managed to look at yours in the gap between the text was visible and the file was uploaded. 



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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @Anonymous

 

They are rotated due to the fact that their top and bottom nodes have got different X and Y coordinates (visible when you increase  structure dimensions precision in Job Preferences). Try to define structural axes following the lines of the columns in X and Y direction and introduce one at any Z level and then use the Detailed Correction option with adjustment to the structural axes with e.g. 1 cm precision. 

 

If I managed to answer your question(s) press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solution(s) much faster. Thank you.



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Anonymous
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okay problem solved - it seems that for the columns with different directions they aren't perfectly vertical!  

 

Thank you for looking into it!

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siliaaPWY4A
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Good morning all, 

 

regarding the rotated bars...what if i want really to have bars with different x,y but keep my section at gamma angle zero?

regards