Thermal Load

Thermal Load

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Thermal Load

Mustafa_AlNajmawiNA4QJ
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Hi All,

 

I'm slightly confused on how to apply thermal gradient / thermal load.

 

I have a plate and i would like to just see the effects of the thermal gradient on this plate. This plate is basically a diaphragm wall. My soil temperature is +10 degrees and the exposed side the maximum temperature is 40 degrees. How do i approach this??

 

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could you please give me an explanation?

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well explained here
https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/temperature-gradient/m-p/6367487#M452...

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Please take a look at this thread

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/robot-structural-analysis-forum/thermal-load-application/m-p/10288542

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Hi,

appreciate the quick reply, i dont seem to understand how the values you have given me, gives me the gradient of 30,

based on Robot manual, dT1 is the uniform temperature (we can consider it the operating temperature) and gT is the gradient.

Based on that the bottom surface will be [dT1 - gT/2 = 17.5 ] and the top surface is dT1 + gT/2 = 32.5. That does not give me the temp that i require (bottom surface 10 and top surface 40)
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You are right, my mistake.

Important:  message #2 updated

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Sorry to answer on a "accepted solution" thread but

"dT1 is the uniform temperature (we can consider it the operating temperature)"

Just to be clear , dT1 is the dfference between the assembling temperature and the maximum or minimum (or any)temperature that place can reach on a given moment . dT1 ,if positive or negative will have a stretching or retracting effect on the structure plane .

Gradient is just the difference between the temperatures above and below strucuture plane , and will give a bending effect on the structure.

If you want to analyse just the bending effect dT1 should be zero.
Below a test model with a slab with one fixed edge  while the 3 others are free.

Case 1 uniform 20 degrees , case 2 gradient 20 and case 3 unif 20 + grad 20

Showing global X and global Z displacements for each load case

thermal 2.jpg

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Hi @Rafacascudo 

 

The goal is to fill the "temperature and gradient" tab in order to satisfy the requested requirements: temperature of the lower face = 10° and upper face = 40°.
In this thread we have
- dt1 = 25
- Gradient = 30° (equivalent to +15° in upper face and -15° in the lower one)
So we meet the requirement:
Upper side= 25°+15° = 40°
Face in = 25° -15° = 10°

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@Mustafa_AlNajmawiNA4QJ  @Rafacascudo 

 

In message #2 i assumed that assembling temperaure is 0°.

Otherwise if assembling temperature is T0, dT1 will be dT1= 25°-T0, no change for the

gradient (30°)

 

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