Save Our RSA

[mustafahesenow]

Hi my friends,

To save RSA and to inform Autodesk that we really love RSA and its the best software ever and you need to keep developing it and improve it more and more.

I am trying to raise our voice and send it to the highest person on Autodesk to let them understand that they have to focus on RSA not to cancel it.

There fore I am trying to collect the voices from our lovely forum. If you are interested in this issue Please send me your feedback and

your contact details to my personal mail (mustafahesenow@gmail.com).

Name , work , your name on RSA forum, and personal mail, and your phone number.

Many thanks for your collaboration.

We love RSA and we will do our best to save it.

Eng.Mustafa Hesenow

[shefypattambi]

Hi @mustafahesenow, @Rafacascudo,

It seems that Autodesk is gave up the Cloud idea for structural analysis.

https://www.autodesk.com/products/structural-analysis-revit/overview

Structural Analysis for Revit is being discontinued

On June 30, 2018, Autodesk is discontinuing sales and support for Structural Analysis for Revit® software. The service will not work with Revit 2019. Please complete your projects, and download and remove data from the service before this date.

Consider moving to Robot Structural Analysis Professional

You can get similar functionality with Robot Structural Analysis Professional, which lets you test the effects of structural loads and verify code compliance using advanced BIM (Building Information Modeling) tools. The software, which integrates with BIM workflows, is available only in the Architecture, Engineering & Construction Collection.

[wassim_said_said]

It is  great News!

We Hope to see the developments in Autodesk Robot now!

Waiting for the 2019 release of  Robot !

Thank you.

[Iron.Max.Steel]

Here is the news in the release 2019, not much though.

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RSAPRO/2019/ENU/?guid=GUID-814F4795-650A-451C-8F07-6C781A0D63B6

[pavlo_ukraine]

It is amazing, awesome!

[chrismcc]

Good afternoon,

I would be very worried, concerned and disappointed if Autodesk drop RSA.  Many people have invested a lot of time, effort and money to learn how to use the software and to buy the software.

It could do with upgrading and things sorted that don't work correctly, but there are many engineers out there willing to help with that process.

I do not believe that integrating structural analysis with Revit is necessarily the way to go and it may be that Autodesk have reached a similar conclusion?  Engineers should build their own models.  The models should not be handed to them by the draftsman.  This does not give the Engineer any understanding of the building.  But building the model column by column and beam by beam, the Engineer will better understand his building and model.

So listen up Autodesk and continue developing RSA.

Good luck

Chrismcc

[StefanoPasquini6790]

hi @chrismcc,

This is exactly the battle that we are fighting...searching to let adsk understand that structural engineering is not a video game.

If you want to join us, and if you didn't do already, please subscribe the petition here: https://www.change.org/p/autodesk-save-our-rsa-structural-engineering-is-not-a-game?recruiter=899384...

Thank you and don't give up!

[Anonymous]

Hi all,

Are there any news concerned to the support of RSA by Autodesk.

I would like to specialized in a particular structural software though I know only the basics of RSA and reading the posts in this forum about Autodesk leaving unsupported RSA , it is a real pity and don't know if at this stage it is worth to learn this software or otherwise try a new one.

[Anonymous]

Hi @Anonymous im very interested how to send you my info? And what are the steps to proceed?

[saclovitzky]

@Anonymous

Just continue learning the software and you will not regret it.

[Anonymous]

Hi

Thank you for this initiative. I hope someone on Autodesk could change the way.

By the participants in this forum, we can see the resistants in the use and confidence on the reliability of this structural design software.

I have seen an article in the Autodesk site about the main lines about the future, in this part of structural analysis.

In fact, all the focus is on BIM and Revit. The objective is to collapse all in Revit for the design of buildings (concrete and steel - with advance steel). They used all the functionalities of the former CBS (the notions of analytical model,...) all is in there 15 years ago.

They have tried to reformulate the visual (with React), and doesn't work. Structural engineers need substantial improvements - eurocodes, Model Code 2010, the complexity of analysis growing).

So, what Autodesk want to do is simply use the Revit to model, assign loads, make the design in the cloud (360 as is today possible) - using robot engine (also in a similar way of CBS), and then show the results on Revit and make the final design on Revit.

The problem is: structural engineers need imperatively for the professional design of structures a structural software, not a black closed box. We need to access directly of the design options, and have a good control of the model. That never could be done in Revit. Not to mention other structures not buildings (tanks, bridges, modal, seismic, complex structures, other analyses, as shown in the robot webinars).

If the way is not changed by Autodesk, structural engineers will always look for other solutions (and there are many that have a real focus on structural design, and have developed real new features to help deal with the complexity of structures). They have moved on and ROBOT as stand still for ears. And all this other structural software is also linking with revit. As BIM is not a fashion, it is really the standard in AEC, as Autocad did relatively to manual drawing.

Thank you again and all the forum.

[shefypattambi]

A new post in  Bim and Beam about RSA 2019.1 update from the product manager itself..!!!

http://blogs.autodesk.com/bim-and-beam/2018/08/30/robot-structural-analysis-mid-year-update/

[Anonymous]

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@mustafahesenow wrote:

Hi my friends,

To save RSA and to inform Autodesk that we really love RSA and its the best software ever and you need to keep developing it and improve it more and more.

I am trying to raise our voice and send it to the highest person on Autodesk to let them understand that they have to focus on RSA not to cancel it.

There fore I am trying to collect the voices from our lovely forum. If you are interested in this issue Please send me your feedback and

your contact details to my personal mail (mustafahesenow@gmail.com).

Name , work , your name on RSA forum, and personal mail, and your phone number.

Many thanks for your collaboration.

We love RSA and we will do our best to save it.

Eng.Mustafa Hesenow

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I am a user of RSA for the past 5 years and i can say that they have one of the best interface and loading patterns. The addition of the wind tunnel simulation within RSA reinforced this belief. But we need the developers to hear our voice and improve the program. Make it competitive like the others. I hope they don't slack on the improvements. Autodesk React should be revamped again.

[mustafahesenow]

Dear Friends,

Its been a long time for posting this post hoping that someone from Autodesk will hear us and change the disappointing story of our RSA.

Unfortunately everything still the same after all that we had done and talked.  very few updates don't meet our expectations. We were hoping a lot, we were expecting serious improvements.

All their posts related to structural analysis and Robot became related to BIM and Revit and very few shy updates.

Just take a look at the other competitor softwares and see where are they and where are we.

Autodesk has a very good developing team for RSA and they are really professional but the problem as usual with the product leaders and the decision-makers they don't want to do serious development Their mentality not aware about structural analysis and really all that they know some basic stupid integration between RSA and Revit and this All that they care about.

Honestly, it's very disappointing and we are hopeless.

I am really thinking that its time to quit.

Many thanks from the heart to the amazing developing team was behind powerful software, we knew that they tied and they can't do anything without decisions from those higher people. 

Shame on all of those people that were behind this tragedic end of our lovely RSA.

[gustavo_c_vasconcellos]

It is really very sad my dear colleague!!!

Gustavo 

[mohammad_aldroubi]

It's really disappointing!

[StefanoPasquini6790]

Hi @mustafahesenow , it's really sad to see this kind of approach in Customer care and, most of all, in lack of development in years...

Let's see what will happens after the open letter of some of the biggest Architectural Firms in which they criticising the lack of development in adsk products, but unfortunately in Revit.

it seems that we, Structural Engineers, were completely abandoned to ourself. I can't help but curse the day autodesk bought RSA

Sadly regards from a sad Italian Engineer

[saclovitzky]

Hello Mustafa & fellow users,

I really believe that everything is still not lost.

We as a users are clamoring for more to develop  RSAP and be more competitive in comparison with other softwares in the market right now.

 Most of the higher ups in Autodesk doesn’t know technical stuff , they are basically more into general things like management and how to steer the company in the coming years to come. They do know things that we don’t and they don’t know things that we do as technical people.

 Let us be patient. RSAP is still a reliable software for me(personally, I've just use only less than 30% of its potential power). I have high regards to some brilliant members of this forum(Mustafa, Rafacascudo ,Stefano.. among others). With their ideas, I pick up invaluable tips on how to unleash the power of RSAP. But at the same time, I cannot blame them to hear their grievances regarding their perceive slow development and neglect of RSAP.

 My suggestions is this; why not we comes up with a proposal to the development team;ie,

For RSAP 2022, the following  improvement should be implemented based from thousand of users;

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I also suggest that  we need to have an organization composed of RSAP users(please suggest names for it), I suggest that Mustafa should be the President and Vice-Presidents are Rafacascudo and Stefano. What do you think guys?

[StefanoPasquini6790]

Hi everyone,

It's unbeliveable to see the improvements of the cousin software "advance design" that, copying Robot, is growing 100 times higher every year. For example they just released the PushOver analysis, described in this post: https://civil-engineering-design.com/2020/09/03/pushover-analysis/

When will we see this development in Robot? Never!

[mustafahesenow]

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