Model a beam hanged to frame rafter

Model a beam hanged to frame rafter

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Model a beam hanged to frame rafter

ahmadmahrous_1
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Hi,

I want to model a beam that is supported by columns hanged from frame rafter as shown in attatched pic:

ahmadmahrous_1_0-1636527508448.png

 

beams 7,8 are supported by  columns 4,5,6 which are hanged from rafter.

Thank You,

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Simau
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Hi @ahmadmahrous_1 

According to your screenshot you already modeled your structure.

So what is your probleme?

 

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What I am asking about how to model the load transfer scenario from beams 7,8 to 4,5,6 to the rafter

so the  beams 7,8 are continuous beam supported on 3 points and columns 4,5,6 takes reactions of beams as axial force then transfer it to the rafter as concentrated loads.

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Scenarion 1

All your structure (1to8) is poured and supported till concrete setting

 

Scenarion 2

1 2 3 are poured and after concrete setting you add 4 5 6 7 8.
You may use Phases

phases.png

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ahmadmahrous_1
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Could you please explain?

This is a steel structure all members are steel

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Simau
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After reflection, for your structure, it is not necessary to use the phases.

So concrete or steel structure, just run your model with all kind of loads you need

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Thank you @Simau 

 

I did but then the beams transfer load only to columns 4,6 and not 5 and act as simply supported beam not continuous as no support at column 5. How to tell robot that column 5 is also supporting the beams??

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It depends of stiffness off different members

Please attach your model for analyse

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if the stiffness of 4 6 is much greater than that of 5, 4 will not transmit any load

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All Members are of  the same section

Her is the Model I want results of beam 7,8 to be the same as 9,10 as they have the same load, section and length.

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Simau
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Something like this

Shear.png

release.png

model attached

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