Composite beam extension - wrong design of beam size

Composite beam extension - wrong design of beam size

khimpitou
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Composite beam extension - wrong design of beam size

khimpitou
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Dear all,

 

I would like to design composited beam extension by my drafting layout but RSA has chosen beam section does not match i supposed ( Girder beam section smaller than Beam), why ?

   

 

Regards,

 

Pitou

 

@khimpitou Artur Kosakowski edited the topic for better findability

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @khimpitou

 

Assuming the load is transferred from the slab to 'beams' and then as point loads from 'beams' to girders then you may consider setting they one way load distribution rather than the two way ones. 

 

If you find your post answered press the Accept as Solution button please. This will help other users to find solutions much faster. Thank you.



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khimpitou
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Thank for replying Aurtur !! 

I has changed panel calculation model to one-way but nothing changed !

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Artur.Kosakowski
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Hi @khimpitou

 

Which module of RSA did you use to design the beams?



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khimpitou
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I used composited beam extension for RSA 2017

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mustafahesenow
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Hi @khimpitou

Could you please mentioned to the beam number which you are thinking should be less and what the section should be base on your hand calculation.



Mustafa Hesenow
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khimpitou
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Please check my attached picture and rsa file !

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khimpitou
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Where are you, Jesus ?

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mustafahesenow
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Hi @khimpitou

 

First of all the main beams should be 1 segment column to column not segmented at each intersection point with secondary beams.

 

Specify clear Construction Dead load (weight of steel member and concrete slab with metal deck and reinforcement ) Name it as construction Dead load.

Specify clear construction live load 

 

make calculation and run the extension it will work 100%  



Mustafa Hesenow
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khimpitou
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I could not find any thing contrast your direction ! Have you check my rsa file ?

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mustafahesenow
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Hi @khimpitou

Yes I had checked it and these comments is from your model 

you got small sections for main beams because you draw it segments between secondary the loads not specified well please update your model and see 

For sure it will work I tried it already and its working .

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khimpitou
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Embarrassing! 

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khimpitou
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Good afternoon

 

One more question, Should I intersect the beam (highlighted in attached picture)with middle secondary beam or not?

 

Regards,

 

Pitou

 

 

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mustafahesenow
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Hi @khimpitou

No you should keep it one segment as it is .



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