Structural Column won't let me cut it's geometry

[db]

Hi... I am having a problem cutting the geometry of a structural column.  If I create a reference plane across some of my columns and try to cut the geometry, it cuts briefly but then extends back up to the top constraint level.  This only seems to happen to certain columns but I've never had this behaviour before.

It seems that the "connections" add in is causing the problem as the columns concerned have a baseplate attached.  If I remove the baseplate, the column will cut as expected.

Has anyone else had this problem ?

Thanks

[Orsolya.Balazs]

Hi,

Thank you for your post. In the meantime I have checked the file you have sent me in 1:1 support. Let me share the workaround in the forum as well.

After activating at the  column's properties the option "Always export as Geometry" the the cut will work as expected.

Please see a short movie about this solution: http://autode.sk/2jONAfF

Kind regards,

[Iram_pw]

Hi,

I hope you can help I'm having the same issue and the problem persists when I attempt the work around? any suggestions 

[Iram_pw]

Hi,

I seem to be having the same problem however the work around doesn't work, is there an alternative work around I could try?

[AndreaStbg]

Hi,

you are right, when you use the steel connections the other "normal" revit-functions don't work any more. You need to use modificators to solve the problem (hope modificators is the correct name - I use Revit in my mother language and don't know exactly the english commands)

[johnjmbennett]

Hi,

to try and explain what is happening here with the column element,   If the user applies an steel connection or a beam modifier from the steel ribbon in revit,   This then changes that element (beam or column) to a steel fabrication shape type beam, so it is no longer a revit structural element and the functions associated with that structural element are no longer possible.

this is explained under the detail steel modelling help,

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-8381A08F-CBCD-4215-AB36-82648C07B8F6

once this change has happens , the process is no possible to change back.

HTH

john

[AndreaStbg]

Hi John,

one little thing to add...

"once this change has happens , the process is no possible to change back."

... try to change the steel element to a concrete one an than back to what you really want to use. It's a workaround to let forget the beam or column its history of beeing a steel fabrication shape type.

[johnjmbennett]

Hi,

but why not try to work with the modifiers that are designed to work with the steel beam elements,  these allow you to create correct cuts and copes as seen for steel fabrication.

https://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2022/ENU/?guid=GUID-A0E90BF3-8A7F-46C2-A598-A5E45AF9F918

these modifiers then aide in the detailing and transfer of steel elements to platforms like advance steel,  to complete the detailing process for fabrication and detailed drawing output and NC processing.

just seems strange not to try and use the tools that are designed to aide steel detailing,  curious as to why users would not adapt to include these within their workflow.  This seems to be the driven direction of the software.

anyway,  just trying to help out.

cheers

[fespino]

None of the suggestions work. This just another bad coding, rushing to get it out into the market. Why did they wrote the code to automatically change the element to fabrication and ignoring the correct modeling intend.

[fespino]

Not true