Revit-Advance Steel integration- harmonization

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I created a detail steel structure in Advance steel 2018 with all connections (there are also few my custom connections) and exported in .smlx for Revit 2018.

In Revit when I tried to import file asked me first to harmonize profiles according to Revit library. After  some time I found similar sections and imported model but details of connections were lost.

So my questions are:

1. Is it better start to build a model in Revit and then have integrations to AS or vice versa. I preffere start from Revit, but is that the best workflow?

2. What is the best way to import model in Revit (.smlx or CIS/2 file, I don't see and understand the difference ?)

3. How to manage to import also detailed connections defined in Advance Steel ?

4. How to harmonized thy Advance Steel and REvit libraries to escape profile recognition?

Regards

[catalin_lang · Accepted solution]

Hi,

1. Is it better start to build a model in Revit and then have integrations to AS or vice versa. I prefer start from Revit, but is that the best workflow?

The intended workflow si to start build the model in Revit.

Steel Connections in Revit 2018 addin has 130 detailed steel connections. From my experience, I know that those 130 are not always enough.

... and you said you have some custom connections in Advance Steel model. Those are not be available in Revit.

2. What is the best way to import model in Revit (.smlx or CIS/2 file, I don't see and understand the difference ?)

The smlx format is design to be used to transfer information between Revit and Advance Steel projects.

3. How to manage to import also detailed connections defined in Advance Steel ?

Only the 130 steel connections that are available in Revit 2018, through Steel Connections addin, are transferred from Advance Steel as connections.

4. How to harmonized thy Advance Steel and Revit libraries to escape profile recognition?

This depends pretty much on your projects. The common profiles should be covered by the provided database.

Beside that, every time you create a new rule, manually, it is saved and automatically used next time.

[Anonymous]

Hi,

thank you for answers.

Could you please discuss more some of them.

1. Is it better start to build a model in Revit and then have integrations to AS or vice versa. I prefer start from Revit, but is that the best workflow?

The intended workflow si to start build the model in Revit.

Steel Connections in Revit 2018 addin has 130 detailed steel connections. From my experience, I know that those 130 are not always enough.

... and you said you have some custom connections in Advance Steel model. Those are not be available in Revit.

Ok, custom connections and their integration from Advance Steel are not available in Revit.

Just a note, detail model in AS with all connections (including the custom) are well integrating to Robot Structural analysis.

So, first model in Revit, then export to Advance Steel and Robot. After detail calculation and code checking we can export the model in Advance steel and make detailing. But final step should be integration to Revit, and this is not as it should be - import detailed model as it is in Advance Steel!

2. What is the best way to import model in Revit (.smlx or CIS/2 file, I don't see and understand the difference ?)

The smlx format is design to be used to transfer information between Revit and Advance Steel projects.

OK.. and when we use that other exstentions?

3. How to manage to import also detailed connections defined in Advance Steel ?

Only the 130 steel connections that are available in Revit 2018, through Steel Connections addin, are transferred from Advance Steel as connections.

Unfortunately, I hope that will be done in the future....

4. How to harmonized thy Advance Steel and Revit libraries to escape profile recognition?

This depends pretty much on your projects. The common profiles should be covered by the provided database.

Beside that, every time you create a new rule, manually, it is saved and automatically used next time.

How you mean new rule. Is there a way to compare steel section library? 

Also is it important in Advance steel define model role as beam, column etc. that during integration to Revit all elements be in that role. In my case (actually for some I didn't mark model role) all elements in Revit were recognized as beams, and some of them are columns.

Regards