quickest way to mirror a complete model

[Anonymous]

We have a complete structural model and the architect has mirrored the building. what is the quickest way to mirror an entire model? 

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

It depends on how developed your model is. If it is not too developed, use the Mirror Project tool directly. If it is, or you are running into errors using that tool, then link your model to a new file, mirror it, move to the correct location (may need to link the arch file as well for reference), and finally bind the link.

[A_MAQ]

use mirror tool or even group the entire model then  mirror after that

[Anonymous]

Its a risky job. especially if elements are locked to grid lines. Saving your existing model as something else (different name) and linking it to you model, mirror it a move to to where you want it the either explode or copy (from the linked model) and paste elements to the "same location" could be another option.

As stated in the previous comments it all depend of the complexity of you model and what you what to achieve.

You need to think of avoiding repetition in the future model developments. Every time you have to change one model you have follow the whole mirroring process all the time which could become a pain.

If all the models are the same then refer to one model as SIM 🙂

good luck.

[gideon · Accepted solution]

I develope this method to mirror the whole house including the annotations for a single family house.

i have three floors (only in architectural plans).

first i go to the basement plan.  highlight everything things in the plan and the Filter button appear, and beside it are "save", "load" and "edit buttons.

with all the basement elements including annotations like dimenions highlighted, i pressed the save (beside the words "filter") button, and save the filter as "whole house filter"

next, go to the first floor plan, then go to the "view" tab , "graphics" ribbon and press the "filter" button.  now press the "load" button and pick "whole house filter" , now press " add to selection" button, and check the "multiple" check   box below, and then highlight everything on the first floor plan including annotations.  now press the finish button beside the " multiple"check box and then  pick "finish selection"..

go to second floor plan, repeat step in last paragraph.

final step is to load the filter now for "whole house filter" when you are in one of the floor plan, then use the mirror command to mirror entire model.

hope that help.

[Anonymous]

Filter sets is very handy "hidden" tool.

[RobohoboRabbit]

if your model contains any rebar or elements in it with constraints copying and mirroring can cause a lot of issues with resizing of elements and the only way to now is to check them all.  

[Anonymous]

@gideon Hi

What is the reason you create and save the filters for each level?

[gideon]

hello,

the idea is to store all floors in one filter.

before I mirror the whole house by grouping, the annotations will not be mirrored and it will be a mess.

if you use the mirror project command in revit, everthing will be mirrored including the site plan stuff.

that is why i develope the mirror by filters method.

hope that help.

thanks,gid

[Anonymous]

@gideon yes somewhat.  I would understand about the annotation not following suit.  Ill have to try thinking on doing this sometime. I wonder if by creating such filters i could also avoid the annotation clean up when rotating my model (model views)?  Thanks! 🙂

[utdragdad]

I do not see the load button when I go to the view tab and select filters?????

Ahhh there it is under the MANAGE tab

[gideon]

sorry, i never tried "rotate" by this filtering method.

but try it, you can always rotate it , close the file and not save it if you do not like the results.

warm regards, gideon

[Anonymous]

@gideon yeah its worth a try. Every time we have to rotate a model afterwards we have to go an fix all the tags and annotation as it does not rotate properly. Ill give it a shot and let you know if the filters affect it in any way. 🙂 

[ipselute · Accepted solution]

In Revit 2020 can you try: Manage menu-> Position (drop-down) -> Mirror Project command ?

I had an old (complete) project done in Revit 2017 with hundreds of views and dozens of sheets. This command worked with 2 warnings and and 2 errors. Some dimensions lost reference points and i choosed to delete them to nulify the errors. Otherwise everything seems right (all floor plans, all sections, were mirrored). The sheet views are displayed right.

[Jason.P]

we work on numerous condo projects where buildings are "the same" but orientated differently. the key is to know when to mirror or rotate the project into a new file for the other "exact same" building. If you are like us, things are never the same, there will be different garage entrances, canopies, balcony layouts etc etc. You will still have to do work with annotation and checking sections and the likes. there is no easy button yet for projects like this but it is way better then it used to be. 

[ipselute]

@Jason.P: I used to do all that mirroring in Autocad. It is more precise, either mirroring as individual elements or entire drawing as a block. But you'd still have to adjust the "labels" = texts with leaders or with other associated graphical symbols. The text itself will still be readable but the symbols will always be on the wrong side of the text.

In Revit you won't have this kind of problem, as the labels are parametric, therefore the label text and the graphical symbols will always stay right no matter how many times you mirror it.

Heck, i always prefer to recreate a couple of dimensions in Revit instead of "fixing" hundreds of Autocad mirrored labels. Multiply that hundred by dozen of sheets/layouts and you'll get my point. Parametric stuff is always easier to manipulate.

[Anonymous]

Fantastic command! Only 3 clicks. Saved me hours of work.

[gideon]

yes, better use "mirror project" command to do the job

[kwoodBJKPP]

When I select filters from the view tab, I can't see where I can load a filter. Can you please advise?