Posible to make bolts one way?

robert.sandborg
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Posible to make bolts one way?

robert.sandborg
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Hi!

 

Revit does not seem to give me the option of removing the lower bolts and make them i guess "one way" would be one way of putting it. 

 

Is it possible to do this? 

If so, how?

 

 

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hmunsell
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are you using the Steel > Fabrication Elements > Bolts tool to place the bolts?

 

you would need to change the Standard type being used. 

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unfortunately, I can find any information on creating a custom Standard type for the Bolt Fabrication Elements. 

 

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robert.sandborg
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Hi, Thanks for your reply!

 

Yes I am.

 

I have tried switching bolt standard, however none of them looks quite right. 

 

And it is the "EN 14399-4" 16mm that we are using in this project, which means it would be perfect to simply be able to customize this. 

 

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But ok, if it is not possible to customize this. Is there a way to create an own standard bolt per say? Or would i have to create a completely new family?

 

What do you reckon is the best way to get the job done?

 

Best Regards 

 

Robert

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hmunsell
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If Revit doesn't allow you to make custom Bolts (I'm not sure if it will or wont) I haven't been able to find anything about custom Fabrication Elements. Id say use the tool to make your Holes, then place a custom family for your bolts. if your doing a lot of them that sounds like a pain though ☹️

 

Maybe someone else can answer if custom Fabrication Elements for Bolts is possible. 

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robert.sandborg
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Got some 50 bolts in this project but it will increase in other projects. So agreed, that does sound pretty painful.

 

I might just roll with holes in BIM for now and draw the bolts manually in the detail/part drawings. But this is not desirable at all. 

 

Thanks for your help though. 

 

Hopefully someone has an answere to whether or not custom Fabrication Elements is a possibility.

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@robert.sandborg 

 

So the Nuts and washers you are showing in your picture come from the "Assembly" part of the bolt properties, Na2W is Nut and 2 Washers, that is why you have a washer under the head of the bolt and then a washer and a nut on the underside

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It is possible within a standard to have different types of assemblies, so we can specify the number of washers and nuts etc

 

The quickest method would be to use a different Standard called "Set screw" thats the only one I can think of, off the top of my head without nuts and washers

Set screw.PNG

 

All the anchors and bolts are based on those from Advance Steel, thats why @hmunsell you probably havent found anything on customising the families, becuase they are not Revit families.

 

It would be possible to add a new assembly to EN 14399-4 called "Setless or something"

 

To add new assemblies to the Advance Steel databases please see the Autodesk Video below, you modify the bolts in the management settings. Before you do any modifications to the Advance Steel anchors i would strongly recommend becing up the Advance Steel data, check out my blog post on how to do that - https://www.graitec.co.uk/blog/entry/are-you-backing-up-your-advance-steel-data

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGCvrv2vIVM

 

Once you have your new bolts you need to get them into Revit, all the Revit bolts and Anchors are taken from the Advance Steel databases which have been copied into the Revit folder Structure, so you need to copy the Advance Steel Database with the new anchors and paste it into the Revit folder structure. Please follow the steps below (Again please note i am working on UK builds so the fodler paths will be different)

1. Shut down Revit and Advance Steel

2. Go to the following folder - C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\Revit Steel Connections 2023\en-UK

3. Rename the AstorBase.mdf to AstorBaseOriginal.mdf (Always best to have a backup)

4. Delete the file AstorBase_Log.ldf

5. Go to the following folder C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\Advance Steel 2023\GBR\Steel\Data

6. Copy the file AstorBase.mdf and paste it into C:\ProgramData\Autodesk\Revit Steel Connections 2023\en-UK

7. When you reboot your Revit you will now have the Assembly type that you created in Advance Steel available inside your Revit bolts

 

 

Rob Merriman, AEC Technical Lead, Graitec
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robert.sandborg
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Awesome, I will try this.

Thank you 🙂

 

Best Regards

 

Robert

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