Creating group or assembly

Creating group or assembly

bert
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Creating group or assembly

bert
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Is there a way to create a group or assembly or some variation there of for a W member, a structural pipe, and some plates? All I am trying to accomplish is that the elements move in sync with one another. I am modeling a pipe storage rack and the transfer pipe is made up of a W member, a pipe, and some plates. I have to select every piece of material to move the transfer pipe "group or assembly" around when changing the storage structure and it is very time consuming. See images below. I don't need to create schedules or anything. I am just using the transfer pipe elements to help model the structure... Thanks for any help.Transfer Pipe Storage Rack.pngTransfer Pipe.png

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MostafaElashmawy
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select them and create group (middle arrow in below photo). also the assembly option is there (left arrow). I prefer the group for your case.

 

Also you can make a selection set (the arrow on the right)

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bert
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Mostafa,

 

Revit will not allow me to do this. "Revit does not allow grouping of some of the selected elements. These elements will not be included in the group." It will not let me create a group with a W member, pipe, and plates. 

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robertwmerriman2
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Hi @bert 

 

I think Revit isn't letting you group these things because the plates are Steel elements, any elements created in the Steel tab such as connections etc cannot be grouped

 

Could you create those elements in a separate Revit file then link them in and move them that way? 

Rob Merriman, AEC Technical Lead, Graitec
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bert
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I have never done that before... Could you walk me through the process or point me in a direction?

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MostafaElashmawy
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I think that what @robertwmerriman2  is good but with one more step at the end.

 

save your file with anew name then delete everything except the required elements that will be used as group.

In the old file, from insert tab>>click link revit>> origin to origin and select the new file.

after the file is linked, select it and click bind.

now the linked file will be changed into group.

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arautio
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I tried this,  it will not allow the link to be bound.  Says error..  Probably because Steel cannot be put in a group (which is the biggest bunch of bull I have encountered in Revit)   So how do you get steel members to be groped or assembled into individual repeating configurations???????????

 

And don't respond by saying go up to the toolbar and select group (Or I will urge Autodesk to fire you)

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dferreira-blackwell
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whenever i needed to group steel tab elements, I just created a model in-place family.(in which I chose them to be structural connections categories) which can be grouped.

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arautio
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I want to group regular taggable steel members,  even just beams and columns.  So we can have a repeating configuration, like a tower that repeats 20 times in a project,  tired of updating 20 towers when I should be able to create one as a group.

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