View Title for 3D Views on Sheets

[Matthew.Thilberg]

Hello, 

For the love of me, I swear I was once able to use the Callout function to reference a 3D view but now that its been a while since I've had to do this. I can no longer figure it out. I use the View Reference tool to reference a 3D view I place on a sheet since I have no other means to do so. Now I'm running into the issue that my Reference Sheet in my view title family isn't recognizing the View Reference callout on my plan.

Images show the callout on the plan and the view on a sheet. 

Have others found a working around that isn't just placing a blank view on top of the 3D view on the sheet, and then turning off the View Title for the 3D View.

[hmunsell]

After selecting the Callout tool, but before you place it, you can check the Reference Other View option and select the view to use. However, I believe that only works with Drafting views. 

[Matthew.Thilberg]

Drafting views or plan views, but this was what I was referring to with putting a "blank" drafting view over my placed 3D view on my sheet. This would mean I have to keep the callout created for view referencing purposes to link the 3D view to a callout on a plan sheet. IE, the callout on a plan for the 3D view that actually points to a drafting view. Then using the drafting view's view title for referencing where at on the plan the 3D View is located.

Looking to see if anybody has found a work around since Revit probably won't be giving us a way to do this...and not having to keep two views updated whenever the need for modifying it is needed.

[GaryOrrMBI]

Use a "View Reference" (from "Sheet Composition" group of the "View" tab). You can tag nearly any kind of view using that tool.

You can build the annotation family symbol to look pretty much like any kind of existing reference in your document (by duplicating the family and changing it's category/type to "View Reference") or something completely one-off for your 3-D views:

-G

[Matthew.Thilberg]

This is how I've done it already. The issue is that when I go to the sheet that I place the view on. The view title doesn't callout the sheet with the plan view. I have the correct parameters in the view title, and this works on everything else but the view reference. Attached images for what I'm looking for on my view title.

[ToanDN]

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[GaryOrrMBI · Accepted solution]

Ok. I think that I'm understanding where you are trying to get to now.

You are wanting the Placed View title to show the "Referencing Sheet". (ie: the sheet that the view in which the callout was created from is placed on) so you can have a "round trip" of references, from the originating view to the called out view (via the callout reference), and then from the called out view back to the originating/parent view (via the view title).

2D views (Plans, Elevations, Sections, etc) all have "Referencing Sheet" and "Referencing Detail" parameters that can be used for this purpose because of the Parent/Child relationship that is created when you first create the child view (The values come from the parent view in which you created the new child view from). A view title can then be created that can show that information/relationship.

Here is your problem: A 3D view does not have the "Referencing Sheet" or "Referencing View" parameters since they do not have a parent view for the view title to display information from (like 2D views have) because they show the model itself, not views generated to document the model.

Your use of a callout to an empty view to be a placeholder on the sheet works because the callout that you create has an owner view, therefore the view title can show that relationship. Revit does not track every reference to a view only the originating one, and that only for 2D views.

In short, sorry, but that's just the world of Revit.

-G

[Matthew.Thilberg]

This is what I thought, and was just hoping someone out there found another work around it. 

Here's to adding it the list of hopeful things to add to Revit.

Would be cool to if they changed these forums to have a different way of accepting answers for the stuff that doesn't currently have a solution. Instead of just marking them as resolved basically. Would make an easier way for them to research user needs.