Room Separation Lines Too Close Together Causing Empty Areas

Room Separation Lines Too Close Together Causing Empty Areas

believememoore
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Room Separation Lines Too Close Together Causing Empty Areas

believememoore
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I am having to create a Room Occupancy Capacity Report and the client only sent me PDFs to use. So I am basically tracing the rooms with Room Separator lines to create my rooms. Now to create this report I need to first draw an overall "room" which is the entire floor and give it a certain occupancy. Next I have to draw out the rooms, but when you draw a Room Separator "area", ROOM 002 inside of another Room Separator "area" ROOM 001 that new area SUBTRACTS from the other area... see "Image 1".

THE ISSUE is when I put in another room, if two of these separator lines are closer than 10" from each other, it causes an empty area... see "Image 2 and Image 3" (empty area in white).

This is happening all over my drawing and I NEED those small areas to be calculated. Does anyone know how I can fix this?

 

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L.Maas
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There is a limitation in room sizes within Revit. See THIS thread for more on this issue.

Louis

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Please mention Revit version, especially when uploading Revit files.

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Lance.Coffey
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@believememoore

There is more discussion on this limitation here and you can vote to remove the limitation:

Remove minimum room dimension (Revit Ideas link)

 

From reading the comments in the link above it looks like you could use an Area Plan, in combination with or instead of rooms to avoid the room limitation:

Area Analysis (Revit 2020 Help topic)

 

If you place similar areas using an Area Plan, and Area boundaries, can you confirm that these gaps do not occur?



Lance Coffey

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Lance.Coffey
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@believememoore can you confirm if the use of areas (in addition or instead of rooms) would be a viable work around for work that you are trying to accomplish?



Lance Coffey

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believememoore
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The Areas do not have the same constraint as spaces and rooms... it will create the gaps at anything less than an inch. I cannot use Areas for what I am looking to do. I desperately need Autodesk to fix this for the sake of occupancy reports. The idea that ALL walls need to be thicker than 11" is a joke. I NEED the gross area of the WHOLE floor plan... not just the places that have separation of more than 10".

What a joke.

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ToanDN
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@believememoore wrote:

The Areas do not have the same constraint as spaces and rooms... it will create the gaps at anything less than an inch. I cannot use Areas for what I am looking to do. I desperately need Autodesk to fix this for the sake of occupancy reports. The idea that ALL walls need to be thicker than 11" is a joke. I NEED the gross area of the WHOLE floor plan... not just the places that have separation of more than 10".

What a joke.


 

1.  There is no such things as a wall need to be thicker than 10", your statement is just flat wrong.  A room need a minimum dimension because of 1. required by code;  2. common sense. 

What you are trying to do is to fit a room in the space of a wall less than 10" thick in order to calculate the wall footprint area because you don't bother to draw the walls themselves.  Well, then using room is a wrong approach.  Which lead to point 2.

 

2.  You can definitely use Area tool for this task.  If it creates a gap at less than 1" then do not have any gaps less than 1", plain and simple.

 

 

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