REVIT MEP 2019 | ATTEMPTING TO INSERT A MITSUBISHI CASSETTE FAN-COIL PLFY-P32-40-50-63-80-100-125VBM-E

[Anonymous]

Hi,

I use AutoCAD MEP successfully, and I have used AutoCAD since 1996, so I am likely to have an AutoCAD head on when using terms.

I live in the U.K. and I am fairly new to Revit MEP I am trying to insert a Mitsubishi cassette fan-coil  PLFY-P32-40-50-63-80-100-125VBM-E into the ceiling grid — 600mm × 600mm at the offset of 2,700mm — but without success.

Having loaded the family into the project, I click on the “Systems” tab › “Mechanical” panel › “Mechanical Equipment” button, go into the “Properties” dialogue box and select the cassette fan-coil size that I want, PFLY-32VBM-E_240V_50Hz and the “Modify | place Mechanical Equipment” contextual tab comes up.

I am now ready to locate the cassette fan-coil into the ceiling grid, but it shows me the no go sign 🚫.

I have tried to insert it in ceiling plan view, elevation view, and 3D view, but all show that same sign.

Can someone help please?  Many thanks in advance.

Tim.

[iainsavage]

Is the architecture in a linked project?

I’ve had similar problems with Mitsi and Daikin families which are ceiling hosted - you can’t insert a ceiling-hosted family into a ceiling which is in a linked project, the ceiling must be in your own model.

[Anonymous]

Yes it is.

Right, I will try that then.

Many thanks.  😊

[iainsavage]

If you open the family it should tell you what type of hosting it uses.

[Anonymous]

I am new to the idea of “hosting”.  It’s not making that much sense at the moment.  I will take a look.

Thanks.

[iainsavage]

I don't know if these are same families - I just pulled them down from MEPContent.com

This one has no hosting so just floats in space - you should be able to place it anywhere. You could also tick the Work Plane-based option and then you can place it on a named workplane (using the workplane to simulate a ceiling).

This one is face-based and has to be attached to  a face of another element (ceiling usually). This family just seems to be the ceiling decor panel though not the actual cassette unit.

When placing face-based families make sure that you select the correct orientation - the default is vertical so you would need to change to horizontal to host onto the face of a ceiling (and check in 3D or section that you have it the correct way up because a ceiling has two faces, one on top and one on the bottom)

[Anonymous]

Funnily enough, host was ‘ceiling’.

I inserted the cassette fan-coil into the architectural and it located it successfully!

Many thanks.  😊

Now I will find out if the ducting can be drawn in to the cassette fan-coils successfully in the mechanical!  That could be fun!  😂

[RobDraw]

If your architectural is a link, you won't be able to connect to it. 

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@Anonymous wrote:

Funnily enough, host was ‘ceiling’.

I inserted the cassette fan-coil into the architectural and it located it successfully!

Many thanks.  😊

Now I will find out if the ducting can be drawn in to the cassette fan-coils successfully in the mechanical!  That could be fun!  😂

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[iainsavage]

Why don't you go to mepcontent.com and download the same families which I did? They are not ceiling based and can be used in your own model even if the architecture is linked.

[Anonymous]

Many thanks for that.  I’ll try that.

[Jason_Peckovitch]

@Anonymous Here is a "quick" tip when downloading MEP content that is not face-hosted.

Create new project, model some basic walls, a floor and a ceiling. Save it out somewhere convenient and let's call it "Hosted". Create a second model and link in the first model you created. Create a floor plan and RCP, save it and let's call it "Face-Based". When you download something that is not face-based, place it in the "Hosted" model, save and close. Now open the "Face-Based" model. On the Collaborate Tab, select Copy/Monitor, select the link than select the family you placed. Once this family is copied into the "Face-Based" project it gets converted from a wall, ceiling or floor hosted family to Face-Based. Now you can save the family out and place it in your MEP models without needing to add a live wall, ceiling or floor. I hope this helps you with future content downloads.

[s.borello]

You can also convert the ceiling hosted family to face based if you like. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHCFvcME3VQ

[s.borello]

You can convert ceiling hosted to face hosted if you want.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHCFvcME3VQ