make mech. equipment not transparent in mech. views

[HVAC-Novice]

I have a wall-mounted mech. family. The section view (Discipline Mechanical) makes this unit be transparent and I can see the wall behind it (see attached image "mech-transparent").

If I change the discipline to "Architectural" this is not transparent anymore, which is what I want (see image "mech-nontransparent"). How can I make this be non-transparent without changing the discipline to Architectural? It seems reasonable that I want to have my mechanical equipment in a Mechanical Section view and it not being transparent.

A mechanical Floor or Ceiling plan shows it as non-transparent, which is good. but the section is that seems to behave counterintuitively.

I read Mech views make architectural features transparent (to see pipes in walls etc.), which makes sense. But this seems to do the opposite.

Thanks in advance

[L.Maas]

You can not, these discipline settings are hard coded. They basically override other settings. So you will have to use an other discipline setting (e.g. coordination) and use filters to get the view/result you want.

[www.TechRoom.bg]

Hello,

you can try to go in v/g overrides ->filter discipline -> go to category and find you element . Than pick transperancy and change it what you like.

[HVAC-Novice]

Thanks for the hint. But transparency was already set to "0". I tried changing discipline to "Coordination"and then the "transparency"value actually makes a difference. but it seems in "Mechanical"it doesn't do anything (I changed it forth and back to try)

I'm not sure i follow A-desk logic to make mechanical equipment transparent in the Mechanical discipline. Especially since this only seems to apply to sections, not floor or ceiling views. I would like to not have to change the discipline of my mechanical section  to "Coordination" or "Architectural" or "Structural" (those 3 display it correctly, electrical, plumbing and mechanical show it transparent).

First, This may have unintended consequences elsewhere. Second, i organize my browser by discipline and having mechanical floor and ceiling plans different than the sections isnt'logical. third, my view filters (where I filter out plumbing sections not showing in mechanical vies etc.) would get screwed up.

Unless I'm missing something, this look like a bug.

[chrisplyler]

I wish this was not hard coded behavior. There should be a user selectable toggle in the view properties, or at the very least take the behavior out and let their display be controlled by VG or category overides like everything else. I just don't understand the logic of, "Hey, let's create a view setting that takes away options from the user!"

I've always known this behavior to be consistant for any view set to one of the MEP disciplines, be it section, plan or whatever. I like to give mechanical equipment a light gray solid fill as a surface pattern. It pretty well gives the illusion that they aren't transparent when viewed against the halftoned architectural elements in such a view.

Or I just switch to Coordination view mode, as long as I don't have too much stuff overlapping such that I really need the hidden lines to show.

[HVAC-Novice]

I'mm not really agaisnt the hard-coded part. I just don't understand why they make transpararent what is in that discipline. It seems the opposite of what one would want.

In an architectural view, I want to see architectural items and that is how it works. why they decide that in a mechanical view I should not be able to see mechanical items clearly (= non-transparent) is beyond me unless I'm missing something. What else is a mechanical view supposed to do than to show mechanical items?

[chrisplyler]

I'm guessing it has to do with showing items that pass above or below each other with the MEP hidden line feature, but I;m just guessing.

[Anonymous]

I'm having a similar problem, but when I change the disipline to Architectural, my stuff is still transparent! Ugh. I tried a filter but I couldn't get it to work. However, I think I am having this problem because the model I'm using is linked in. Does anyone know if that's the problem and what I can do to fix it???

[L.Maas]

Possible, but difficult to say. There are many ways to control how objects look.

When you link in another Revit file then in the visibility graphics overrides you will see an extra tab "Revit Links" where you can create different overrides.

Of course it can also be setting in the linked file itself. Further if you have your view to wireframe then basically everything is transparent.

Consider posting some screenshots, or even better, your project, so that we can have a look to see what might be the issue