Disciplines settings change?

[Anonymous]

Can we change the properties of the Disciplines (Electrical, Architectural, Structural, Mechanical, Plumbing, Coordination) shown in the Properties? 

[iainsavage]

Not the hard coded settings, only the hidden line settings.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2015/EN...

...and then obviously you can play about with visibility graphics, view filters and graphic display options.

[hmunsell]

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What "properties" are you trying to change? can you give an example of what you want to do?

[milton.arceneaux]

I would like to set the Discipline value to Plumbing, because I'm responsible for the piping, which gives me the automatic centerlines and set the Show Hidden Lines to None, so that piping crossing piping shows the pipe below hidden under the pipe above. The problem with this choice is the elbows show as open and you can't tell if the elbow is coming up or going down. I've been using AutoCAD and Autodesk Apps since 1985 and everything can be customized. Revit is no different. We just need Autodesk personnel to tell us what to do to get the software to serve us, instead of us having to serve it. I'm sure many of you on this Forum are much smarter than me and have already solved this, I just haven't found the answer yet. The previous setting we used for the Discipline is Coordination. With this value set, we get hidden piping below other piping, but the centerlines are not displayed automatically and you have to draw them and change them when the piping changes. I'll try to attach some screen shots to help. Thank you for your help in advance. Milton Arceneaux.

This is the result of Plumbing and None.

This is the result of Coordination and None.

If the Coordination setting will display the centerlines, that will be perfect. I have changed many settings in Visibility/Graphics Overrides for the view, with no success. If Autodesk expects us to do Piping with Revit on our multidiscipline projects, they need to add the features of AutoCAD based Apps in the software. If this has already been done, then I take back my statement. By the way, I'm using Revit 2021.1.7. Thank you.

[RSomppi]

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@milton.arceneaux wrote:

We just need Autodesk personnel to tell us what to do to get the software to serve us, instead of us having to serve it.

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You don't need Autodesk for this but they have online tutorials that might help. There are many ways to learn how to use Revit. Online tutorials are great for general topics like this and these forums are great for particular questions. Look for Revit "Essentials" tutorials for piping. Linked In has some really good ones. Autodesk has some too. Check with local resellers for a list of training centers in your area.

[M-Alam]

@milton.arceneaux you can try setting your discipline to plumbing with show hidden lines set to none and change the transparency of your fittings to 100% that will show you the rise and drop.

[milton.arceneaux]

Is this what you mean ?  In the previous screen shot, the elbow turning down looked correct. When I change the fitting transparency to 100%, that tells me it will be completely transparent vs opaque. Correct ? The perfect option for me is,

" Can I get the centerlines to show up if my discipline is set to Coordination ? " That would be perfect. Thank you Milton.

[iainsavage]

“I've been using AutoCAD and Autodesk Apps … and everything can be customized. Revit is no different.”

I’m pretty sure that statement is inaccurate, unless you’re a programmer and can edit the software itself.

For average users like me there are things which cannot be customised in Revit via the user interface and the settings of the view disciplines is one of them.

When we transferred over to Revit one of the first things that I realised is that my many years of Autocad experience were largely irrelevant. Revit has not been developed out of the Autocad suite, its a completely separate package which, I believe, Autodesk bought so it has very little in common with Autocad or other Autodesk products.

[milton.arceneaux]

Thank you for your reply. Autodesk as a company has created it's products for the user community to improve the product by allowing us to modify files to "make it our own", so to say. One example I can use in Revit is, the Lookup Tables for piping components. These are text files with values that are editable and need to be checked when beginning a project. The user interface has always been customizable, and Revit should be no different. I've attended the BILT Revit Conference and there are many people demonstrating how to modify the software to make it work for us in design. This conversation needs to be broader in scope to include our parent company, so they know we need more tools. If the tools exist in the software, we need more articles or help documentation to instruct us how to get what we need.

Thank you,

[RobDraw]

Your thoughts belong in Product Feedback or the IDEAS forum. 

[milton.arceneaux]

Thank you Rob. This is my first time interacting with our online community. I relied in the past on our Autodesk Dealer, VIP Account Reps, Product Developers and Programmers. I'll take some time to read more about our guidelines.
Thank you for helping,

[iainsavage]

Lookup tables are a method of setting parameter values for families in which the geometry does not follow simple geometric rules. They’re not a method of customising the software they are an inherent feature of the software.

Dynamo is widely used as a means of getting Revit to do things that the software does not do inherently, e.g. transferring values from certain built-in parameters which can’t be scheduled into user-created parameters, or to create geometric shapes which can’t be made using the standard extrusion, sweep, revolve etc….and more.

The API can be used to customise some aspects of the software if you know how (which I don’t, I’m not a programmer and not interested in becoming one).

But, again, for average users of the software you cannot change certain hard-coded settings and the view discipline settings are one of those. You cannot create curved pipes (you can create curved Pipe Accessories, Pipe Fittings, but not curved Pipes). Similarly you cannot create square-section pipes…and other examples.

So you might wish for the software to be fully customisable but as far as I’m concerned there are certain aspects which are not.

”Revit should be no different” - I agree but unfortunately that’s not the case.

“if the tools exist in the software” - unfortunately they don’t.

See this idea from 2017. Similar to your own wishes. Not yet implemented.