Conduit graphics, planes, etc.

[GTisRuleX]

Started working for an Electrical contractor about a month ago.  Working on conduit fittings, I don't understand how much of the conduit is missing so much geometry as I"m working compared to duct or pipe.  Devs have to know by now the shortfalls but whatever.

Bent conduit, more often than not, the ends of the bent fittings don't show.  It makes sense graphically, since it's bent conduit, there'd be no visible edge at the fitting, but when the pipe sections are isolated thru view filters the ends literally disappear!  There's nothing to dimension, etc.  Where conduit turns up or down, plan views are extremely difficult to see whether it's turned up or down.  I've tried adjusting all options on clipping, disabled Hardware Acceleration, and still no luck!

Thru google and experimentation, I've learned that "Medium" or "Course" displays at least allow me access to Reference planes (How the heck did this get screwed up?  Most importantly, "Fine" detail is when you should have these planes exposed.

We tend to dimension to the heel of the bends, not the centerlines per shop and field request for bending conduit for fabrication.  

Anyone have any advice on the fitting visibilities?  Right now that's my biggest issue.  I need the parts to show up, reference planes I've found a working (But poor) solution to keep moving forward.

Attached screenshot to see what I"m talking about.  The section views on "elevation right" are turned on to see where the clipping planes are set in relation to how the "Elevation Top" shows.  I hate to say it, but it's a very poor representation generated by Revit of what's actually happening here.  Matter of fact, it would definitely get built wrong if I sent it as-is to the shop.

[GTisRuleX]

This is getting really ugly.  Please tell me there's solutions for these absolutely poor graphic representations?  I can't turn this stuff into the shop, it looks so poor you can't even tell what's what.Even the selection preview is better than the plotted version.

Please help!

[RobDraw]

I'm pretty sure if you are looking for fabrication level content/graphics that you are out of luck.

[GTisRuleX]

Plumbing, piping, and ductwork don't have these graphic issues or missing planes on system families.  I've worked heavily in all 3 disciplines, and this is simply poor representation of Revit solids.  I'm hoping there's additional settings I've overlooked or was unaware of.

(These are 4" conduits pictured above.  I've drawn similar models in 1/2" copper pipe which is significantly smaller, but graphically appears as you would expect.)

[RobDraw]

Comparing disciplines seems logical but it doesn't hold any water here. Electrical has always been it's own distinct animal. My advice to you is to find out what the company has established for this and follow that.

A quick search for electrical fabrication in Revit will give you more information about it not being available. Did you not try searching for answers?

Here is a link to a recent post to this forum:

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-mep-forum/fabrication-parts-features-for-electrical-contractors...

[GTisRuleX]

Unfortunately that check sheet is pretty much out of date/touch with reality.  This isn't Facebook and it's not my first day using Revit, non productive comments aren't really welcomeor wanted.

Previous company I worked for was spooling conduit for well over two years before I left. This is a graphic display issue, not interaction of the parts to each other which is a whole different subject.  

Here's some screenshots of 4 of 5 X's on that link for electrical components.  

[RobDraw]

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Why are you resorting to being insulting?

I was trying to help. No one else is offering up anything. Since I've never done electrical fabrication, I can only try to steer you towards proper sources.

You said you were new at a shop. I assumed you were looking for electrical fabrication parts for Revit which do not exist OOTB. Maybe you should try offering up more information instead of getting all hot headed.

What did the shop do before you started there? What did you do at your last place?

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@GTisRuleXwrote:

Unfortunately that check sheet is pretty much out of date/touch with reality.  This isn't Facebook and it's not my first day using Revit, non productive comments aren't really welcomeor wanted.

Previous company I worked for was spooling conduit for well over two years before I left. This is a graphic display issue, not interaction of the parts to each other which is a whole different subject.  

Here's some screenshots of 4 of 5 X's on that link for electrical components.  

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[GTisRuleX]

Your reply doesn't help the problem, only stating, "Did you google it?"  Sorry, but yes I did, that's simply a dirty insult.

I've seen electrical plot better than this, so I know it's not a platform problem, but a settings issue, or bad fittings I"m using.  The company is starting prefab, so there's no developed standards or processes to fall back on.  

[RobDraw]

I've read back through this thread.

To be honest, a lot of what your saying doesn't make sense and seems more like a rant than an inquiry about how to improve your graphics. I think it's because you are "asking" too many questions at once. Pick one, start a new thread, and ask for help politely.

[Greg.Martinez_Alterman]

Not sure if you ever got an answer on this topic.  Try researching PIPE SPOOLING it will be based on Mechanical Pipe Fabrication but the same concept works with Electrical Conduit.  You will basically click on the run you want to create a shop drawing for hit tab until the entire run Highlights. 

On the modify ribbon there is a create assembly icon. Type name of the conduit run.  >Naming Category: Conduits 

if you youtube creating pipe assembly it will help you understand it a little better.  It will isolate the run and ask you to which views you want to create.  on you Project Browser it will create an assembly name that you created.  Right click that name and that is where you create your sheets and views to drop on the sheet.  When you start to dimension the conduit it gets a little confusing to explain.  You need to assign work planes to each Center of Conduit segment so your dimensions will snap to the center of conduit and not on the floor.  Once you figure out how that works making Conduit Assemblies  are pretty quick and easy.  Understanding the setting work plane or reference planes to center of conduits thats the hard part to get working figure that out and you will be pumping out Shop Drawings left and right for Prefabrication.  Hope this give you some where to start at.

[s.borello]

Revit OOTB is not awesome for electrical conduits; especially fabrication parts... I don't even think it exists.  Perhaps look for an add-in to achieve what you're looking for.