Cant update grid line names

[revitworkbench]

Hello,

I dont seem to be able to update grid line numbers. The architect had his grids numbered out of sequence and I copy/monitored them in that way. Now he went and changed them all so that they are numbered correctly. so I went in to coordination review to update the changes but I cant because they are all the same numbers? This seems stupid to me. Is there a work around for this? Has anybody else had this problem?

[Anonymous]

Hi @revitworkbench ,

Try and change the number for all the copy/monitored grids in one shot rather doing it one by one and it should work. Because you are trying to change one grid number at a time it's not allowing you to do so as the grid line with the same number already exist in the model. Let me know if this works.

Thanks,

[revitworkbench]

yeah I figured that, I also tried that. Doesnt seem to work for me. Can you get it to work?

[Anonymous]

It's causing this problem because you might have changed the numbers for 2 grid lines and not all grids when you were trying to change the grid numbers. (I assume that from your initial post which shows 6 grids in the picture and the later image shows 4 grids in coordination review table), so either you can try to change all 6 grids at the same time or there is a way around which is little tricky.

• Select all grids
• Stop monitoring
• changes the numbers (this is little tricky, as you can't rename/renumber grid if that name/number already exist, so you have to give some temporary number like 2a)
• Re-monitor all the grids by following below steps
  • Collaborate --> Copy/Monitor  --> Select the link --> monitor
  • Select the grid line in your model, and then select the grid from linked model
• Now the Revit is monitoring again that gridline
• You have to do this for each gridlines - one by one.

Also, there is always option of deleting all grids and copy/monitor again if you are comfortable with that , and nothing works in your case (however I don't prefer/recommend this).

Let me know whichever works for you.

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Pick a single grid, rename it to '99' or some such unused number, then go through each grid in the Coord Monitor and rename them, starting with the one that wants to become whatever '99' used to be.  So for example, change grid '1' to '99', then change grid '2' to '1', grid '3' to '2', etc.

This is why I never C/M grids.  It's even more fun when they add grids and you never find out because you can't see the **** things.

[Scott_D_]

We copy/monitor as much as we can. It tells us when the Architect starts moving things around without telling us.

Happens a lot......

[Anonymous]

"We copy/monitor as much as we can. It tells us when the Architect starts moving things around without telling us."

Oh lord that sounds like madness to me.  The coordination monitor notifications must be overwhelming.  We use hosted families so that they move with architectural surfaces when they do and get a warning when the host is deleted.  After trying several degrees of C/M from ARCH models we've settled on only doing so for levels, and usually only levels that correspond to floors/roofs.  Everything else just made the models too unwieldy and led to us not seeing added elements because the visibility of them in the linked models was turned off when we copied them.

[Scott_D_]

It can occasionally entail a lot of work but I would rather than too much information than too little. When things go wrong it can help pinpoint exactly what changed and when.

If you export the schedule of changes with each linked models update your QS can pick through the changes instead of you.

It helps to notice trends such as big groups of changes to identical equipment happening all at once as well as fundamental changes like grid and level moves.

All of the content I use is  Face based and hosted to an appropriate element.

If you copy/Monitor a category it should tell you when something new is added to the model - 'uncopied fixtures have been added to the linked model' or whatever the warning says.

If I set out my sockets and dado trunking to suit a desk and computer layout and then the architect moves all of the computers it will tell me so I know there is a problem, it cuts down on latent defects but you do have to set the time aside each week to deal with any issues arising.

I once had an Architect tell me in no uncertain terms that I should only use level hosted families.

[Anonymous]

"If you copy/Monitor a category it should tell you when something new is added to the model - 'uncopied fixtures have been added to the linked model' or whatever the warning says."

When did they add that?  I got burned horribly by added grids late in a project the last time we used C/M for them - we never got a notification, and the reliance on "it's all in the model" to replace actual communication didn't do us any favors either.  This was several years ago though.

"I once had an Architect tell me in no uncertain terms that I should only use level hosted families. "

Cue murder thoughts.

[Scott_D_]

It was added a while back if I recall correctly. Maybe it only works for MEP content categories?

Murder thoughts indeed. This was just after he said 'no' when I asked him to change all his Electrical Equipment category items in the FF&E model to something else, like Speciality Equipment.

Every time I created a Panel Schedule it listed the available EE elements to choose from, which was a list populated with several hundred printers, keyboards, phones, computers and monitors. It messed up the visibility of my plan layouts and various other PITA issues that could not be fixed. Grrrrr

We always C/M Grids to set out builderswork holes from, if they are dimensioned off the Arch model walls and grids and they delete the wall or gridline..... cue amazing project-wide disappearing dimensions! Deep Joy.

[JGuptill]

This only worked on a few where there wasn't a circular reference.