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Message 1 of 11
shaiGV878
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Windows_ViewRange

How I can manage the visibility of windows under the cut plane?

In the example I have three Windows (Opening in the wall) with a detail item nested: Revit shows the window above the cut plane but not the window under the cut plane.

I can insert an invisible model line inside the family to intersect with the cut plane. Is there any other workaround?

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Message 2 of 11
machycekF254L
in reply to: shaiGV878

I would use "Plan region" (View -> Plan Views -> Plan region). 

Then you can edit View Range in same way as in Floor plan.

Message 3 of 11
shaiGV878
in reply to: shaiGV878

Yes but to create a plan region you should know that there is an opening therefore I would still prefer to create an invisible model line. I was asking myself if I was missing a setting inside the family editor.

Message 4 of 11
l-presser
in reply to: shaiGV878

Unfortunately, I don't believe there is any setting/clean way to manipulate the family to get what you want. It will have to be done in the project. A couple solutions.

 

1. You can change the "Show hidden lines" option to "All," but this will affect the whole project.

lpresser_0-1704811893765.png

 

2. You can change the transparency of walls in the Visibility Graphics to be something greater than 0. I'm assuming this is for when working on a project, so you can create working views and assign a working view template with this setting, than have the actual floor plans in your documentation set use a different view template. I think this is probably your best bet.

lpresser_2-1704812747052.png

 

If you intend to show the windows in actual documentation, I would suggestion using the Plan Region tool as was mentioned by the first response.

 

3. Make the detail component slightly wider than the wall. The window is still being shown, Revit just gives graphic priority to things that are cut through, so the wall is shown "first." As you can see below, it is still showing the detail component that I put in the window, but because the wall is being cut, that is shown in front of the detail component.

lpresser_1-1704812356451.png

 

4. Your idea of modeling an invisible element in the family to get cut by the cut plane.

Message 5 of 11
barthbradley
in reply to: shaiGV878

Sounds like you are using the ol' Invisible Model Line Trick and it's not working for you.  Is "When Cut in Plan/RCP" checked under the Visibility Settings of the Window geometry?   

Message 6 of 11
shaiGV878
in reply to: barthbradley

Hi, I am using the old trick and it works, I was asking if there are better solutions or if there are very critical disadvantages to use this trick. Thanks for the other solutions, so far it seems to me the best solution. 

Message 7 of 11
ennujozlagam
in reply to: shaiGV878

can share the window family here?





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Message 8 of 11
shaiGV878
in reply to: shaiGV878

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Message 9 of 11
barthbradley
in reply to: shaiGV878

You can use a Plan Region or you can use the ol' Invisible Model Line Trick, as were mentioned above.

 

Help | Create a Plan Region | Autodesk

 

Revit OpEd: "Aaaah,The old invisible line trick, eh "99"?"

 

 

Window Vis 1.pngWindow Vis 2.png

Window Vis 3.pngWindow Vis 4.png

Message 10 of 11
barthbradley
in reply to: shaiGV878

Something else you ought to be aware of is the cut behavior of Windows as well as Doors.  

 

Window and door families are not cut based on the cut plane defined in project views. Instead, they are cut based on the cut plane defined in the family's plan view.

 

Windows and Doors not showing as expected in floor plans in Revit (autodesk.com)

Message 11 of 11
shaiGV878
in reply to: barthbradley

Thanks @barthbradley , it is quite misleading this setting

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