Why door/window family doesn't fully cut on the curtain wall?

bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

Hello experts!

I am trying to place a door/window family on the curtain wall. But it doesn't fully cut, it is haft cut only. I don't know the reason why?

I am an amateur in Revit, so I would like attached the my testing here. Please help me by directly do on the attached.

Thank you very much!

BH Khanh

Anonymous · ‎09-19-2019

They want to be on a full panel.

bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

@Anonymous wrote:
They want to be on a full panel.

Hi @Anonymous , I am using curtain wall because our work is insullated panel. It's a series connection between each other. Each piece W=900 mm. But we also use the door which has wide more than W900, so somtimes I cannot place it in a fully panel. Do you have any other idea for this matter?

Thank you very much!

BH Khanh

Anonymous · ‎09-19-2019

You can remove parts of the curtain grids to form larger panels in places. I have done that here.

bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

@Anonymous wrote:
You can remove parts of the curtain grids to form larger panels in places. I have done that here.

Hi @Anonymous

Because our panel wide is W900, so I would like to keep the joint line at the under and above of window & door also. I cannot move curtain grids because it will change the panel wide.

Thank you very much for your time. Please help me another idea!

BH Khanh

jacques · ‎09-19-2019

Are you looking to issue fabrication drawings for each individual panel? In that case, why not use generic models instead of curtainwall?

barthbradley · ‎09-19-2019

Join the Basic Wall Panels at the Grid Line. Should fully cut both.

...unless of course you have a Mullion there. Then it won't cut through both.

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ToanDN · ‎09-19-2019

Add a Rectangular Opening to cut the other wall panel.

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bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

@jacques wrote:
Are you looking to issue fabrication drawings for each individual panel? In that case, why not use generic models instead of curtainwall?

Hi @jacques

It need to use curtain wall instead of generic models, because I have to creat the wide dimension for each panels. Like bellowing attached. Using the generic model cannot creat a dim on the plan view like autoCAD.

Thank you very much for your time!

BH Khanh

bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

Hi anh Toan

I thought as your idea yesterday. It takes so much time to revise when receive new informatioin from customer. I tried to make another family by using array generic models, but it does not like a basic wall family. I can place only straight walls. Could you take a look at the attached? It's not good, so I think the curtain wall is more better.

Thank you very much!

barthbradley · ‎09-19-2019

Huh??? What's this file have to do with Curtain Walls, Doors and Windows???

bh-khanh · ‎09-19-2019

@barthbradley wrote:
Huh??? What's this file have to do with Curtain Walls, Doors and Windows???

Hi @barthbradley

I just want to explain why I want to use the curtain wall for my work.

Thank you very much!

barthbradley · ‎09-19-2019

@bh-khanh wrote:
Hi @barthbradley

Thank you very much!

You're welcome.

afonsolmnsilva · ‎07-08-2024

Hello guys,

I was reading this post because I have the exact same issue.

Did you find a way to get through this problem of dois and windows not cutting more than one panel in curtain walls?

thank so much in advance for your help!

afonso

bh-khanh · ‎07-08-2024

Hi @afonsolmnsilva
Actually until now I have no idea for this solution yet. We have been trying to change to use generic wall instead of curtain wall and using the way to split generic wall into parts instead of using curtain wall. it's perfect way with generic wall with part option.
Give it a try on it?

azad.Nanva · ‎07-09-2024

use Void to cut wall

check the "Cut with void When Loaded:

use CUT for each panel:

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Afonso__Silva · ‎07-09-2024

Hello @azad.Nanva

Thanks for your reply.

I just inserted a void inside the window family (and i tried it also in a dorr family) (and i checked the box to cut when loaded). However, the void still does not cut the curtain wall when i load it in the revit file. It just cuts a single panel.

Can you help solve this issue? Maybe show me a video of your workaround / walkthrouht process please?

Afonso__Silva · ‎07-09-2024

Hello

Thanks for your reply.

I just inserted a void inside the window family (and i tried it also in a dorr family) (and i checked the box to cut when loaded). However, the void still does not cut the curtain wall when i load it in the revit file. It just cuts a single panel.

Can you help solve this issue? Maybe show me a video of your workaround / walkthrouht process please?

azad.Nanva · ‎07-09-2024

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Afonso__Silva · ‎07-09-2024

Hi Guys,

Thank you for your time and video.

It actually does not work with simple cut geometry. With my curtain wall panels, i just did this simple process and it worked perfectly:

1. Create a void inside family.

2. Check box 'Cut when loaded'

3. Insert the window/door family in the curtain wall (between 2 panels or more)

4. It just cuts 1 single panel

5. Select 'Join Geometry' and pick the two panels. You will see that the void will now cut the 2 panels, however the 'join/curtain wall grid' line will disappear.

6. Dont worry, select Unjoin Geometry and select the two panels again. You will see now that the 'join/curtain wall grid' will appear again and the two panel will still be cuted in the geometry of the window/door you inserted.