What defines a Drafting View Crop Region?

[Anonymous]

So I know this has been an annoying problem with Revit for quite some time, but I am just wondering for explanation purposes. Most of everyone I am sure hates that Drafting Views have no Crop Regions and no way to change the randomly assigned Crop Region, but I was wondering if anyone knows where it comes from. As you can see in the image I attached, the Drafting View has a HUGE crop region that is way beyond what is drawn. I keep getting asked about where this comes from or how to fix this from my coworkers, but I have no explanation. Does anyone know how this can be fixed or have an explanation as to where this border extents comes from?

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Excess reference planes in a detail item....dwg files for a couple of ideas...

[barthbradley]

How much is the break line's masking region covering?  That's part of the view too.   

[Anonymous]

They aren't masking much. Those are quite a distance away from the view extents.

[ToanDN]

Right click on the view from the browser, save to a new file and share it.

By the way, nothing prevents you from create a level away from the building, and draft the details as detail views.  There you can crop them however you want.

[Anonymous]

I attached the Drafting View. 

That's true that people can do that. I think people in my office are used to doing it this way that it's hard to get them to do it another way. If I can get an example of that process going then maybe I could get my office to move over to doing it that way. Drafting Views aren't necessarily bad, but they can be annoying. The really the main issue to this; that they are annoyed with the views being much larger than the content in them.

[Anonymous]

The reference planes in 1 family was the issue. Just figured it out. I knew that had to be it, but didn't really go into it until I saw your comment.

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

One example.

[Anonymous]

Yep, I found that one. I knew that had to be it

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, in case your detail is outside the crop region of the drafting view you can still move it into its center. 

1) click on the drafting view when placed on a sheet

2) Size Crop to approx size you like - the drafting elements might now be outside the crop area and it is blank

3) Double click into the crop area or hit "Activate View".  Draw a big selection rectangle over the screen. If that selected the drafting element fully, the element's pin symbol will be visible.

4) move the element by the pin symbol to the center of the crop area. The cop area will not be visible, so you have to guess it. Deactivate the View.

5) When moving the cursor into the crop area (viewport), it is now visible + the drafting element

A workaround, but a true crop area with handles would be the best.