Walls with batt insulation pattern

[steve]

Any suggestions for creating walls with insulation patterns automatically (not with the annotation insulation detail)?.   I created this hatch pattern, but since wall sections only seem to accept drafting patterns, the batt hatch pattern displays oddly at different scales.  And as such, it will not line up with the wall.    I've attached the pattern if you'd like to try it, 1 each: drafting and model patterns.   Here is what it ends up looking like, but it is drawing scale specific. .      https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rXh_HUx349EOCZhnqVmymjP3lgp0Fg28/view?usp=drivesdk   

[hugha]

Maybe:

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2019/EN...

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[steve]

I am looking to make it part of the wall materials so it is done automatically, not one by one. 

[barthbradley]

You mean, build the batt insulation into the Wall Type's Stud Layer?  Funny, I did this too when I first began using Revit. Then I saw the results in every Section View I created. Looked pretty nasty - especially at 1/4"=1'-0".  Just saying. 😉 

[steve]

Barth - yep.  If you can't bring in model scaled patterns to material, I guess it's a non-starter.   

[zeulrick]

This has been debated and tried before. There is little to no hope for this at the moment. The issue is scaling.

What I have done with a lot of projects is change to spray foam insulation and this is easily represented as a shaded area within the wall envelope. I understand that spray foam is expensive and not always needed. Just an idea...

[cbcarch]

Not a Revit solution  but in our real world projects,

We are using less and less batt insulation as the Energy Codes have been requiring Continuous Insulation.

So most of our exterior wall assemblies typically have 2-3" of rigid insulation over the sheathing, and NO batt insulation between the studs as placing it there would cause unwanted dew point / condensation. This is used with a wide variety of masonry veneers, metal panels, EIFS (obviously!) etc.

[barthbradley]

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@steve wrote:

Barth - yep.  If you can't bring in model scaled patterns to material, I guess it's a non-starter.   

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I cannot remember how I got there, but as I remember, I was successful in getting the batt to scale properly. But the  issue was not about that. In the end, it was just that it looked horrible. Every cross-section showed this squiggly linework sandwiched inside the wall assembly.  And, with Thin Lines turned off and on the printed output - it looked far worse.