Wall and Materials

zs-17
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Wall and Materials

zs-17
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Hi

I have a 20cm column and a 25cm column. How can I cover the column with applied material to the wall?

Many thanks

 

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barthbradley
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...Paint Tool

...or, change Material of Column

...or, Join Geometry might work, depending on the type of column. 

 

...however, it looks like you want to cover the column with the same finish material as the wall.  Create a new wall type with just the finish material and place it in front of the column  --- or build the finish layer/materials directly into the column family.  

 

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zs-17
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  1. The column is a generic without material
  2. with paint tool I will have different thicknesses
  3. Join Geometry tool is not working
  4. Is there a way to stretch the material over the column?  Or is there any technical way to do other than editing the Family of the column? I'm a beginner and not familiar with editing family yet
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ToanDN
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Stretch the wall over the column and Join Geometry them.

 

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zs-17
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I went for column with walls from 2 directions. The material problem is solved. But do I still have a complete column? because I have warning message to unjoin elements

 

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barthbradley
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Join Geometry to Embed one into the other.  Both walls, right?  

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zs-17
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Yes it is. I'm checking with you the result I get it to know if I did it right or wrong. Beside, sometimes there are many ways to do the same think, so I'm trying to be sure that I understand well and nothing more.

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zs-17
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Hi
What I'm thinking about is the quantity and detail.

  1. The join tool combine the walls but it cuts the column, which means the quantity of concrete and column
  2. The drawing should be sent to the site must shows the place of each column to implement it on site.

I tried a different way. I drew a masonry wall and additional one from outside represent the plaster and stone cladding similar to what happens in real world. The problem it get is the doors and windows are able to do openings in one wall only.

In a conclusion we need one way of these

  1. A way for windows and doors to open 2 walls
  2. A way to stretch the material on sides as already exist for for material from the button of the wall (attachment file) or any other way. If there is no way to do it, I need to ask it from the developer team for a future release of Revit version

Many thanks

 

 

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ToanDN
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Join adjacent walls and a fenestration will cut through all of them.

zs-17
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Hi
Sorry, I din't understand. Which walls we are talking about. The regular way or the other way I tried? My way is to create 2 walls side by side. In both ways I didn't understand how to do it

Many thanks

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barthbradley
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@zs-17 wrote:

 

  1. The join tool combine the walls but it cuts the column, which means the quantity of concrete and column

 

Switch Join Order so that Columns cut the Walls. This will change quantities of materials appropriately.  

 

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...Also, let me restate a suggestion I made earlier, and that is to create a NEW Basic Wall Type that only contains only the Finish Materials of the Walls. You can then place this Finish Materials Wall Type in front of the Columns.   All the  Finish Wall Layers will join together seamlessly. 

zs-17
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Hi

window is able to cut 2 joined walls side by side. This way works with me

Regards

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zs-17
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Hi

I didn't know before about this option. I will expand my knowledge about it. It seems logic. Joining 2 walls side by side suggested by ToanDN works also. 

I'm satisfied for these 2 solution

Regards