Using Sheets in Families

[Anonymous]

Hi There,

I have drawn a Family and I would like to incorporate the Plan / Elevation of same into a Sheet to show how the object is constructed.

Is there a way to add Template to a Revit Family and add the various views of the object the same way you show floor plans, elevations etc  in a Revit Project?

Thanks if anyone can set me right.  I have tried adding a sheet but cant seem to find a way to do it.

Thanks in advance

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous

You can do that by loading the family into the project. The Sheet section of the Family Editor browser does not allow for adding sheets/titleblocks.

It's a lengthy explenation why not possible but in short if it would have been possible; whatever you would place on sheets their would not turn out to be the view from the observer's shoes/perspective. Views on sheets require orthographic projection in Project environment

[Anonymous]

So that is great -  now  I can see my families now within the main project in the Project Brower.  But how do I see the views of this family from within my main project so I can drag them onto sheets?

I see all my families listed, but if I click on any just brings up the Type Properies for that family.  If you could direct me how to get the sheets from this point, i would be very grateful.

Thankyou !

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous

After you load them; you need to place them in the model/project

Option 1:

• On the Ribbon go to Architecture tab > Components Menu > Place component

Option 2:

• from the families section of the project browser; drag and drop them in the view

Note: You will need the proper host for each type of family. Some families cannot be dropped in thin air and would require the proper host depending on which type they are (face based, wall base, ceiling, floor....etc)

Once you place them; you can then just drag the corresponding views (if you used architectural template to start your projects; you should have elevations/plans views already set up...ie: elevations,  plans, sections if you need)...and drop it on a sheet (assuming you have set up your sheet with a title block and all.

If elevations are not set by default you can always drop them on the plan view from the Ribbon>View>Creat>Elevation

I'm assuming you have an idea on how to adjust the crop view/cliping/scale and all so that when they are placed on the sheet they wont end up looking odd

[Anonymous]

thank you.

Apologies if I wasnt clear.  I am able to load my families into the project,

What I am now trying to do is show the drawing of my family (plan, front, back, left, right) on a Sheet within my Project. In other words, my model is finished, but I now need to show all my work in sheets for production purposes.  For example, i made a custom lamp and it is in my project, but i now need to show elevation, plan of this lamp along with annotation to explain material to use to build it.  I want to put these on Sheets (Templates) along with Plans and Elevations of my main building.

Hope my question is now clearer.

Thanks again.

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

@Anonymous

Is this what you need to do? or did I misunderstand?

[Anonymous]

Thank you so much,  yes, i see now exactly what you mean, and sorry i didnt get that from your original reply.

That is solved for me now and appreciate your help.  🙂

[Anonymous]

My question is, can this be accomplished using Dynamo?

We are currently building a collection of families for a Wall Panel Manufacturer, and they will need shop drawings for each individual panel that is placed within a project.   Each panel will need a plan view, an elevation view and a 3D view. 

Several of their projects, have several hundred panels, each on requiring their own shop drawings.   If we are unable to speed up the process all the work on the families will be of little use to them.

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

My question is, can this be accomplished using Dynamo?

We are currently building a collection of families for a Wall Panel Manufacturer, and they will need shop drawings for each individual panel that is placed within a project.   Each panel will need a plan view, an elevation view and a 3D view. 

Several of their projects, have several hundred panels, each on requiring their own shop drawings.   If we are unable to speed up the process all the work on the families will be of little use to them.

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Create Assemblies from Panels and generate Assemblies Views/Sheets for shops drawings.

[Anonymous]

I'm not familiar with Assemblies, but I will be looking into it.  If you have any more information on Assemblies or recommendation on where to look for information please let me know.

[ToanDN]

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@Anonymous wrote:

I'm not familiar with Assemblies, but I will be looking into it.  If you have any more information on Assemblies or recommendation on where to look for information please let me know.

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https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/revit-products/learn-explore/caas/CloudHelp/cloudhelp/2016/EN...

[Anonymous]

I have a question about this.

For example, I created a structure model in revit.

There are beams, columns, braces, but let's focus on a column.

A structure column is composed with seven parts; C shape steel, 2 vertical stiffener, 2 horizontal stiffener, 2 end plates.

A structure column can be an assembly.

Seven parts can be families.

With this model, I need create one assembly sheet for assemblying(welding, bolting...) and 4 part sheets for manufacturing. (In Part sheet, quantity will be 2 in each part sheets.)

Using revit assembly function, I make a column assembly. Then I can create views about only a column with creating views function.

When it comes to parts(families), I cannot draw views efficiently. It needs a lot of time and effort.

Because I cannot make parts assemblies in a column assembly and use creating views function. I have to seperate a part from whole model and duplicate several times to make views to draw a part sheet.

If somebody have solutions with revit basic functions (I'm using revit 2019) or have some dynamo, add-in solutions, help me.

[ToanDN]

Make the componnents of the column as nester / shared families then you can create an assembly for each nested component or any combination of nested components.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for your answer.

As you said, I create column families with nested shared components.

Now I can make column assembly and parts assemblies. It's great!!

So I can create parts assemblies' views using creating views function.

But when it comes to assembly views, creating views function is performed
but there are no contents in sheets. Sheets are empty.

Do you have the same situation or did I do sth wrong?

[ToanDN]

Sheets are empty so you can choose the views to drag drop on them as you see fit.

[Anonymous]

Oh, I mean views that were created by automatic assembly views function are
empty.

[Anonymous]

I tested several times what you said.

I made a window family with nested families(frame, glass).

I can made a window as an assembly.

And I made a frame as an assembly and a glass as well.

I performed the gaining views function of assembly.

Now I get 3 sets of views about a window, a frame, a glass.

I think the problem is I cannot see anything in views of the window except some grids and schedules.

A frame and a glass views are ok.

In my opinion, assembly's views are not generated when some assemblies are included in an assembly.

To be exact, views are generated

[Anonymous]

I don't think the first question was fully answered:

So we spend all this time creating a family, making it look and work wonderfully. I believe the first question was... can we put that work we did in the family onto a sheet. Everyone said no but there is a work around.

I took a simple SNIP of the elevations I wanted from the family and pasted them on a sheet. Saved tons of time not having to recreate every families dimensions and views in a project template.

Dean Harris

BIM/Revit Family Developer 

[dc]

I want Revit to do its magic and consolidate all of the sheets in a single set for all of the reasons available elsewhere, so I want the detailed chair views to be placed on a project sheet and managed with the others.  The approach shown, in a project with many chairs, will result in the example chair increasing the scheduled count of chairs by one. I handle this by adding a parameter called "CLASS" to all my families so I can give special examples a special designation like "Example", then filter the schedule of chairs to exclude ("does not contain") the example. More work, though. You also need a special space outside the main project scope to put the examples, then exclude them from your main project views. I think of this area as the off-site demo space.