Trying to create this line based family

Trying to create this line based family

AustinMcCollum
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Trying to create this line based family

AustinMcCollum
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I'm trying to create this line based family where it will place the number of full-length panels and then place another 1 of the families but just cut the family off where the line stops.

 

I'm thinking that I may need to create an If-then statement to have the line edge cut the family but I don't know if that is even possible.

 

Attached are the 2 families

 

Thank you for any help

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Message 2 of 14

barthbradley
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See if the attached file helps you.

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AustinMcCollum
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AustinMcCollum_0-1596126575587.png

that is what I want the equation to do....if that makes sense

 

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barthbradley
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@AustinMcCollum wrote:

AustinMcCollum_0-1596126575587.png

that is what I want the equation to do....if that makes sense

 


 

mmm? Nope; doesn't make sense.  What's the red fill and line represent?  

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AustinMcCollum
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Your Wall cladding family was exactly what I was wanting.

 

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ToanDN
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@AustinMcCollum wrote:

I'm trying to create this line based family where it will place the number of full-length panels and then place another 1 of the families but just cut the family off where the line stops.

 

I'm thinking that I may need to create an If-then statement to have the line edge cut the family but I don't know if that is even possible.

 

Attached are the 2 families

 

Thank you for any help


Why not simply use a curtain wall for much more flexibility?

 

ToanDN_0-1596143491477.png

 

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martijn_pater
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@ToanDN You read my mind...

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barthbradley
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@AustinMcCollum wrote:

Your Wall cladding family was exactly what I was wanting.

 


 

Just did that one for another member recently.  Check out this discussion:

 

https://forums.autodesk.com/t5/revit-architecture-forum/sheet-array-with-1-help/m-p/9652467#M291094

 

 

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AustinMcCollum
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Our interiors ladies want the category of this family to be Specialty equipment and they don't want this family to show up in plan but only in elevation. 

 

I never thought about using a curtain wall family to make this, but maybe that would be easier.

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ToanDN
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I did wall cladding using curtain walls for an entire floor of a hospital. Different typical panel sizes, sometime they need to be sloped or curved to follow the ceiling, various panel types and finishes, some time one panel in the chain has a different accent finish. That would be a nightmare using a family with array. And set them to show or not to show when you want is just a matter of using filters.
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martijn_pater
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You can make cw panels not show in plan I suppose, although category is somewhat more difficult if you really have to put those under specialty equipment for some reason. You could model it in-place in this category or with the line-based family, I guess you have some options...

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calexander_PCO
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You are right that to achieve that you are going to need an if/then statement to create the "width" of the parameter with, I'd guess, a few calculated parameters for the entire length, number of whole repeats, and then the remainder.

 

The curtainwall idea is also a good one, with the challenges mentioned below. I'd look at employing a system that allows for the naming of the curtainwall system and the panels themselves as named something like 'specialty equipment' or, if needed, more granular information. Then create a standard view filter to help control the visibility - but it depends on the flexibility that you need and whether you are wanting quantity takeoffs, etc.

 

One challenge of the curtainwall system is that it is, by design, flexible - so that curtain wall panels can be whatever size you want them; so if it is a commodity item that you are trying to calculate, it would infer or allow a greater amount of flexibility than is possible (i.e. panels come in 2' increments but it was modeled as 7'-4" tall) - it's the same challenge we had/have with door panels in curtainwalls rather than using a door family in a wall-panel.

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martijn_pater
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@calexander_PCO wrote:

Then create a standard view filter to help control the visibility - but it depends on the flexibility that you need and whether you are wanting quantity takeoffs, etc.


If you don't want to see it in plan you can simply uncheck the panel families' visibily settings not to display in plan views...

Element visibility settingsElement visibility settings

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AustinMcCollum
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I'll have to ask some more questions to see if there is a need for sloping the wall protection or anything else that would make using curtain walls. 

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