Stone Cladding

[Anonymous]

I work for a firm in Israel. We work mostly on residential buildings. The walls of these buildings have a stone cladding on the exterior. The way it works is that the stone is 25 cm. in height followed by 1 cm. of space and so on all up the wall. I need this element to be parametric (the height of the stone and the height of the gap) and to be through out the entirety of the wall. I tried with a reveal but that did not give me the ability to make my own profile of the reveal. Additionally I tried compound walls and splitting the material and editing and modifying it in section preview when editing the structure. Does anyone have any strategies for this?

[RDAOU · Accepted solution]

Hi @Anonymous

There are several ways to do it depending on the purpose of the detailing and LOD/Contract requirement...I do love 3D parametric modeling and I enjoy modeling in complex funny wierd stuff in 3D (not just in Revit) but I do not encourage it where it is not necessary or not required. So I would say the main options you have are (without limitation) as follows

• If it is just about BIM; All in the material browser

1. use surface patterns
2. add a material texture
3. Align the Pattern and the Material texture
4. If you do not have the texture (you can download one or use photoshop for instance to create your own)
5. Assign Bump and Joints to the material/texture and simply apply it to the elevation wall finish layer
6. then latter add model/detail groups in plans and section/callouts ...etc with 2D parametric elemens clarifying the details of the stone cladding

Here is an example from Jeff - TheRevitKid using/creating Wall patterns

Another example on

• If, for some specific reason, it is a 3D parametric model showing stone by stone

1. You can use a pattern based generic model to model the brick/stone element (there are several which you may pick from) NOTE: a pattern in this case doesnt mean the 25cm x 40cm size of the stone/brick but a pattern onto which Revit may apply the family you modeled ie: it could be that it is more convinient that your modeled family consists of an assembly of 10 bricks 50x25cm bricks with joints in between
2. Once done; load into the project
3. In the project add an inplace mass/surface; divid it and apply the same pattern

An alternative methode is to

1. Model one brick or 10 bricks or whatever set you desire using an gerneric adaptive family
2. Place a surface in the project and divide
3. enable nodes
4. set the grids to match the dimension of the brick (example 25cm x 50cm) or set of 8 bricks (100cm x 100cm)
5. load the brick and place it as per the order of placement point
6. select the brick u placed and on the ribbon/modify tab hit Repeat

An alternative method

1. Use a Curtain System where the Panels would be the bricks and the mullions would be the joints
2. Use a face Face based family which you place on the elevation
3. Model the brick in a simple generic model family then nest it into a line based family andmake use of parametric horizontal and vertical arrays
4. use Dynamo

and many more methods on the list which one can pick and choose from... If you can be more specific and can advise how advance your Revit modeling skills are one may/might be able to guid you better...just so that you wont get yourself into something that doesn't turn out so good in the end

There are tons of examples on youtube which might be useful and can guide you to the desired result...here is one from an old post on this forum; not your bricks but the same concept applies

[FGPerraudin]

HI @Anonymous,

Have you tries using PARTS?

It allows you to divide a layer of a wall using a profile or a simple offset that will create your void between cladding parts.

Here is the link to the official description of the tool:

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2016/ENU/?guid=GUID-22D24055-61A2-40BB-A2F7-A37990300B2B

About the parametric part, you can use reference planes to divide your surface, so you can make them parametric of course.

Don't forget to set the view settings to the right one ("parts only" or "show both") for printing, working and more!

François-Gabriel

[FGPerraudin]

Happy to make a quick screencasst tomorrow if needed!

François

[Anonymous]

Really appreciate the in depth response. Even though it was not quite what I was looking for, it was very informative none the less. Below is a section and elevation of what I am looking for. I have for the time being used reveals that I designed as a family myself and used an array to spread though out the surface of the wall.I just wish there was a way to do this as a standard or a parameter of the wall definition itself. Would I be able to do this by editing the wall family?

[RDAOU]

What is explained above are different ways to achieve what you have drawn in the attached image.

The wall family is not editable to that extent...you may abuse the tool to make a wall look like that by stacking and making parts and playing with grips but it is definitely not the right way...same applies for arrayed reveals. But again that is my personal opinion

From ur reply I would recommend that u use material texture + 2D brick detail components placed in sections and callous details.

[Anonymous]

Ok will do. Thank you for all your help.

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