Stacked Wall Conversion

[millerew17]

Hi All,

I want to convert my ext. walls from "painted" stone veneer walls to stacked walls with "real stone". 

I have my stacked wall created but when I try to swap it out..... dimensions change as shown on the screenshot.

What is the trick to doing this and keep my core numbers to stay put? 

Thanks!

[Sahay_R]

Unfortunately, Stacked walls could have been a much more powerful tool than they are. A possibility that we have been discussing here has been of just creating a Wall type. Worth a try.

Your Stacked wall is 8" thick, the original wall is 7.5" thick. Accept the warnings that Revit gives you when you are switching out the wall and let the 24' dimension go away. Flip the stacked wall. When I did this I ended up with a dimension of 24'

[barthbradley]

why don't you just add a sweep to your existing wall? Make it cuttable so your windows will punch through it. Or, as a Host Wall Sweeps? This way you can control their visibility in views.

...HEY ELMER! Just realized it was you! How's it going? I hope well for you. 

[millerew17]

The lower stacked wall is 11.5" and the upper is 7.5". I tried your way and the "outside face of the core" stays exactly 1/4" out too far. That part isn't making sense to me. 

[millerew17]

Hi Bart...Still at this ..Not giving up....the more I work with it -- the more I like it! Still much too learn.

This is a monolithic foundation  What I was hoping for is to pull the stone down the drop ledge in the foundation much like we do for siding over the rim. 

[barthbradley]

I get the brick ledge. Core remains at finish floor. More a good reason to sweep the stone - or modify an existing basic wall to unlock the stone layer to enable a base offset to extend the stone to the ledge.  

[millerew17]

I have no idea how to create a stone sweep to use in this way. I thought sweeps were all about trim and such. Is there a screencast out there on the how-to? Or can you give me a few simple instructions on how to take this stone pattern and make it happen? 

[barthbradley · Accepted solution]

This would be a great opportunity to use a screencast - if the **** thing wasn't broke! (You listening Autodesk? Case No.12874711). 

Elmer, probably the simplest way for you would be to apply a sweep and a Host Sweep, as opposed to building it into the wall. To do this, all you need is a Profile (a cross-section view of the stone itself), which you can create using a Profile Template. Load that profile into the project and click Wall Sweep under Walls and apply that profile to your exterior walls. Easy breezy. 

Hopefully some Screencast pro can can to your rescue here. It would be a short video. 

[ToanDN]

How about simply unlocking the bottom of the hardi layer and the top of the stone layer?

[millerew17]

My first issue was when I swapped the regular wall for the stacked wall my wall dimensions start changing. the wall I'm trying is the 16' one at the south/bottom of the main floor. I intended to go around the whole place. 

I never got to dropping the stone down to the foundation ledge because of this dimension problem.

[millerew17]

Putting this dimension issue aside and looking at this stacked wall a bit more, I came to the conclusion that Bart's idea of using a sweep for the lower stone wainscot is the way to go. I don't see how to extend the stone down to the foundation ledge because in the "properties edit" with a stacked wall there isn't a lock/unlock for the individual components like in a basic wall. Unless I'm totally missing something here? 

That said ...my big question is how do I make a profile in order to make a "stone" sweep with this kind of stacked & staggered stone wall? 

Thanks again!

[ToanDN · Accepted solution]

If the height of the stone consistent relatively to the wall then sweep is the way to go.  If it varies then you need more profiles to accommodate the different dimensions.  If it has slopes (i found unlikely for what you show) then sweep does not work.

See screencast:

[millerew17]

Got It! Thanks again.