Spaces are being subtracted from Room placement

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hello Autodesk,

We have a strange situation happening in one of our file with ROOMS and SPACES.

I am trying to place a ROOM once I have made the ROOM SEPERATORS. Below is the sketch of the ROOM SEPERATORS:

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When I try and place the ROOM inside, the ROOM does not follow the SEPERATOR lines and is SUBTRACTING the SPACES that have been placed during an earlier period of the project. See below:

sandeepgill28G3N5_1-1636117725241.png

Any idea as to what causes this and how it can be solved?

Many thanks for any inputs!

[RDAOU]

@sandeep.gill28G3N5 

What is causing this are the bounding elements or room separations from the previous/existing phase

• If the rooms from the previous/Existing phase are supposed to be gone in the new phase then you should select those elements or room separators and set them to be demolished in the New Phase

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hello again,
So I have gone into the file again, Please see below:

All bounding lines for the SPACES are selected and the PROPERTIES for PHASES 
Phase created: New Construction
Phase demolished: None

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Same for the SPACE separator lines:

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So both types of elements share the same phasing as I see.

Same if I change all the bounding lines to EXISTING:

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Is there any other thing I can try to get the ROOM to not show these subtractions caused by the SPACES?

[ToanDN]

Try cut and paste aligned in place the space separation lines.

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hey again,

I have removed the SPACE seperator lines and then also the SPACES.

I then PASTE ALIGNED TO SAME PLACE and the ROOM is now 'to normal'

sandeepgill28G3N5_0-1636123186907.png

However, since the spaces had to be deleted, I have no longer the info that was associated with the SPACES.

is there anything else I can try so I can avoid to re-doing the spaces?

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

I have shared the file here if you would like to test and try.

Any method that can solve without having to delete elements would be greatly appreciated!

Regards

[ToanDN]

Cut and paste aligned in place Space Separation Lines only, not Spaces.  It fixed the Room issue while keeping all the space data intact.

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[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hey again!

Thanks a lot!

If I understand correct, I am copying and pasting the SPACE SEPARATORS, and this will mean that I have OVERLAPPNG lines for the SPACE SEPERATOR right?

If so, is there a quick command to remove overlaps like OVERKILL command in Autocad?

Many many thanks for your help!

[ToanDN]

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@sandeep.gill28G3N5 wrote:

Hey again!

Thanks a lot!

If I understand correct, I am copying and pasting the SPACE SEPARATORS, and this will mean that I have OVERLAPPNG lines for the SPACE SEPERATOR right?

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No.  Cut and Paste, not Copy and Paste.

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Sorry for my lack of knowledge here.......

could you show me that command please?

[ToanDN]

See button below.  When you cut the lines, Revit will ask you if you want to delete the spaces, answer NO, do not delete them.

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[ToanDN]

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast/9a644343-9f95-4cba-96c3-63ead79f86aa

[sandeep.gill28G3N5 · Accepted solution]

EXCELLENT!

Thanks so much!!

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hello there,

Can I ask, where do you get the mouse to show the buttons being pressed in the video?

I could really benefit from this!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[ToanDN]

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@sandeep.gill28G3N5 wrote:

Hello there,

Can I ask, where do you get the mouse to show the buttons being pressed in the video?

I could really benefit from this!

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Those are generated by the screencast recording software.

https://knowledge.autodesk.com/community/screencast

[sandeep.gill28G3N5]

Hello once again!

Sorry for opening this again - I have this issue recurring and I am looking for a deeper understanding here.

Is there anyone who can help?