Some dimensions are not showing up in Linked Views

[CRG_Pinearq]

Hi, 
I'm working on a federated model, which is divided in architecture, structure and printing model. Structural model is attached in architectural model. In the printing model, some dimensions, which are referenced in the structural model disappears, and I couldn't find a way to dimension a plan without wasting time.
 On the left screen we find the architectural model and in the right one, the printing model

Could someone solve it or explain me which is the best way to dimension a project which is around 20000m2.

Thanks.

[CRG_Pinearq]

Hi, 
I'm working on a federated model, which is divided in architecture, structure and printing model. Structural model is attached in architectural model. In the printing model, some dimensions, which are referenced in the structural model disappears, and I couldn't find a way to dimension a plan without wasting time.
 On the left screen we find the architectural model and in the right one, the printing model

Could someone solve it or explain me which is the best way to dimension a project which is around 20000m2.

Thanks.

[MostafaElashmawy]

I think you hide some elements in the printing model that the dimensions are referenced to.

For example, I think you hid the grids of the linked model. So all dimensions referenced to these grids are hidden too.

[MostafaElashmawy]

I think you hide some elements in the printing model that the dimensions are referenced to.

For example, I think you hid the grids of the linked model. So all dimensions referenced to these grids are hidden too.

[barthbradley]

Dimensions in the attached Link won't show up in that case. You would need Link it in as a separate and set it's view representation to "By Linked View". 

[barthbradley]

Dimensions in the attached Link won't show up in that case. You would need Link it in as a separate and set it's view representation to "By Linked View". 

[MostafaElashmawy]

I want also to make sure that you mean "some" dimensions from the linked file don't show and not "all" dimensions of the linked file don't show.

If you mean "all" dimensions of linked view don't show:

VV>> Revit Links >> By host view>> turn it into By linked view and select the desired view.

(Check below Photo)

If only some of the dimensions are missing, so for sure it's referenced to some hidden elements.

[MostafaElashmawy]

I want also to make sure that you mean "some" dimensions from the linked file don't show and not "all" dimensions of the linked file don't show.

If you mean "all" dimensions of linked view don't show:

VV>> Revit Links >> By host view>> turn it into By linked view and select the desired view.

(Check below Photo)

If only some of the dimensions are missing, so for sure it's referenced to some hidden elements.

[barthbradley]

The way I read it, was that the "some" missing dimensions are from an "Attached" Link (e.g. Link inside Link).   If that is the case, then it's not possible to pull an Attached Link's dimensioned views into a Project.  Maybe I misread though.  

[barthbradley]

The way I read it, was that the "some" missing dimensions are from an "Attached" Link (e.g. Link inside Link).   If that is the case, then it's not possible to pull an Attached Link's dimensioned views into a Project.  Maybe I misread though.  

[wmb207]

Piggybacking off the above issue, I have created a townhome building and brought in the plumbing fixtures, which are linked from the original plans.  I have dimensioned all the offsets, plumbing fixtures, plumbing walls, etc. on the building file.  When I bring that file into the master community file, anything that has been dimensioned from a Plan Region, like plumbing fixtures, does not show.  However, all the other dimensions do show up, like off sets, overall.  Is there a setting, or something, I need to turn on to show all the dimensions. It seems the issue is with the Plan Region. I have had to go back and add Reference Planes and dimension to those for all the dimensions to show. Thanks.

[wmb207]

Piggybacking off the above issue, I have created a townhome building and brought in the plumbing fixtures, which are linked from the original plans.  I have dimensioned all the offsets, plumbing fixtures, plumbing walls, etc. on the building file.  When I bring that file into the master community file, anything that has been dimensioned from a Plan Region, like plumbing fixtures, does not show.  However, all the other dimensions do show up, like off sets, overall.  Is there a setting, or something, I need to turn on to show all the dimensions. It seems the issue is with the Plan Region. I have had to go back and add Reference Planes and dimension to those for all the dimensions to show. Thanks.

[barthbradley]

Under VGOs, Set the Link to "By Lined View" and pick a Link View from the drop-down.  

[barthbradley]

Under VGOs, Set the Link to "By Lined View" and pick a Link View from the drop-down.  

[wmb207]

Thank you for the response.  

I have already gone in and set the correct view to 'By Linked View". As you can see in the picture, the left screen shows the dimensions as I have created in the individual building file.  The slab was created in the file, but I brought the plumbing walls and fixtures in as a linked file and dimensioned to the center.  They were done with a Plan Region so they would show up as I wanted.  

When I brought that file into the Master Building file (I have 23 different buildings), those dimensions are not showing (see right screen). 

[wmb207]

Thank you for the response.  

I have already gone in and set the correct view to 'By Linked View". As you can see in the picture, the left screen shows the dimensions as I have created in the individual building file.  The slab was created in the file, but I brought the plumbing walls and fixtures in as a linked file and dimensioned to the center.  They were done with a Plan Region so they would show up as I wanted.  

When I brought that file into the Master Building file (I have 23 different buildings), those dimensions are not showing (see right screen). 

[wmb207]

Thank you for the response.

I have already gone in and set the correct view to 'By Linked View". As you can see in the picture, the left screen shows the dimensions as I have created in the individual building file. The slab was created in the file, but I brought the plumbing walls and fixtures in as a linked file and dimensioned to the center. They were done with a Plan Region so they would show up as I wanted.

When I brought that file into the Master Building file (I have 23 different buildings), those dimensions are not showing (see right screen).

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Thanks again.

[wmb207]

Thank you for the response.

I have already gone in and set the correct view to 'By Linked View". As you can see in the picture, the left screen shows the dimensions as I have created in the individual building file. The slab was created in the file, but I brought the plumbing walls and fixtures in as a linked file and dimensioned to the center. They were done with a Plan Region so they would show up as I wanted.

When I brought that file into the Master Building file (I have 23 different buildings), those dimensions are not showing (see right screen).

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Thanks again.

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[wchanTNSKS]

I have a similar setup. There are individual architectural models with linked structural model. I dimension element in the architectural model to the element from the linked structural model. All the model then get linked in a printing model and views are setup as linked by view. The dimension described doesn't show up. Is this a limit from Revit? Please advise.

[wchanTNSKS]

I have a similar setup. There are individual architectural models with linked structural model. I dimension element in the architectural model to the element from the linked structural model. All the model then get linked in a printing model and views are setup as linked by view. The dimension described doesn't show up. Is this a limit from Revit? Please advise.

[justin_langloisB9R7S]

Did you find a solution to this? I'm having the same issue where dimensions connected to the linked model is missing whereby all the other ones remain.

[justin_langloisB9R7S]

Did you find a solution to this? I'm having the same issue where dimensions connected to the linked model is missing whereby all the other ones remain.

[User5CYX5R-Kobus]

 I'm having the same issue where dimensions connected to the linked model is missing whereby all the other ones remain. Did you find a solution to this?

[User5CYX5R-Kobus]

 I'm having the same issue where dimensions connected to the linked model is missing whereby all the other ones remain. Did you find a solution to this?

[SteveKStafford]

The "By Linked View" override option in Visibility/Graphics does not support showing dimensions that reference a link.

For example, dimensions that are in Model A that reference elements in Model S will not appear when model A is viewed in the model S and that view uses a "By Linked View" from model A.

Revit does not find the referenced element(s) in the link (model S) because it is referencing the linked model (model S viewed in model A) as an entire element itself and that element does not exist in the S model, itself, not a link. It does not see the element, in the same way, when viewed in the context of its own model. Dimensions that reference the link's own elements will be visible, just not those that reference an element in a linked model.

Edit: added two images (A model left and S model right) blue is S model and pink is A model.

[SteveKStafford]

The "By Linked View" override option in Visibility/Graphics does not support showing dimensions that reference a link.

For example, dimensions that are in Model A that reference elements in Model S will not appear when model A is viewed in the model S and that view uses a "By Linked View" from model A.

Revit does not find the referenced element(s) in the link (model S) because it is referencing the linked model (model S viewed in model A) as an entire element itself and that element does not exist in the S model, itself, not a link. It does not see the element, in the same way, when viewed in the context of its own model. Dimensions that reference the link's own elements will be visible, just not those that reference an element in a linked model.

Edit: added two images (A model left and S model right) blue is S model and pink is A model.

[TripleM-Dev.net]

Hi @SteveKStafford,

It's not actually a limitation of not being able to use a dimension to a linked model for Linked view usage.

But more "That element (with id xxx) doesn't exist" if a model with dimensioning is linked and link view is used in another model.

Model A - a model

Model B - a model with Model A linked, and dimensioning to Model A, in say View A

Model C - a model with Model A and Model B linked, when using linked View A, only dims show that is dimensioning Model B elements, no dim's to Model A.

I wonder, what if the linked model is set to Attachment? Would that work....?

So, if Model A isn't linked to Model C directly, but as nested link of Model B...

I think not, the Id/UniqueId would still be different for the Link Model A in Model C, would only work if Revit would recognize this and change the dim. reference in memory..

Have to test this out someday...

Hope it makes sense.

- Michel

[TripleM-Dev.net]

Hi @SteveKStafford,

It's not actually a limitation of not being able to use a dimension to a linked model for Linked view usage.

But more "That element (with id xxx) doesn't exist" if a model with dimensioning is linked and link view is used in another model.

Model A - a model

Model B - a model with Model A linked, and dimensioning to Model A, in say View A

Model C - a model with Model A and Model B linked, when using linked View A, only dims show that is dimensioning Model B elements, no dim's to Model A.

I wonder, what if the linked model is set to Attachment? Would that work....?

So, if Model A isn't linked to Model C directly, but as nested link of Model B...

I think not, the Id/UniqueId would still be different for the Link Model A in Model C, would only work if Revit would recognize this and change the dim. reference in memory..

Have to test this out someday...

Hope it makes sense.

- Michel

[SteveKStafford]

Yes, creating dimensions that reference linked elements IS supported. In the scenario described by this thread's origin story it does not work.

Yes, the underlying reason is that the referenced element can't be found because that linked element isn't present in the model it is being viewed from. The element the dimension is referencing is actually native to the file that is viewing the link and its view. But Revit isn't seeing that element the same way as it does in the other model, as a part of a linked model.

At the end of the day for us mere users... it's not really any different than saying "it's not supported". If it was supported it would work. 🙂

Regarding making the link Attached instead of Overlay, if you think it through you'll realize doing that will introduce a new problem, circular referencing. Revit will unload the link...the desired dimensions won't appear. In my testing, it doesn't work when either or both models are linked into a third model and using By Linked View. I either get circular referencing warnings or the dimensions don't show up, either way.

[SteveKStafford]

Yes, creating dimensions that reference linked elements IS supported. In the scenario described by this thread's origin story it does not work.

Yes, the underlying reason is that the referenced element can't be found because that linked element isn't present in the model it is being viewed from. The element the dimension is referencing is actually native to the file that is viewing the link and its view. But Revit isn't seeing that element the same way as it does in the other model, as a part of a linked model.

At the end of the day for us mere users... it's not really any different than saying "it's not supported". If it was supported it would work. 🙂

Regarding making the link Attached instead of Overlay, if you think it through you'll realize doing that will introduce a new problem, circular referencing. Revit will unload the link...the desired dimensions won't appear. In my testing, it doesn't work when either or both models are linked into a third model and using By Linked View. I either get circular referencing warnings or the dimensions don't show up, either way.