Sketching stairs that overlaps with its self

[courage93]

I am trying to sketch stairs that wraps around wall, it is all good until the stairs needs to continue in areas where lower steps already exist (overlap).

I tried making the stairs using normal "run and landing" method, but for some reason I get another error of some kind.

Pictures are attached.

[loboarch]

You can't do it with sketched stairs.  You should be able to do it with component based stairs.  You can look at his video to see how to accomplish a 3 run (stair that over laps itself) stair.

http://help.autodesk.com/view/RVT/2020/ENU/?guid=GUID-4D12152C-C5BD-475D-91E7-AE5D0919A52E

[courage93]

Thank you for this, so we established that sketch cannot be used for a switchback stairs.
However, it seems that I also have another problem that you can see in the video attached, it seems that Revit does now allow a short distance to exist between the meeting point of the two flights.

I tried drawing a custom landing instead of automatic landing. but the issue presists.

[loboarch]

I am assuming you are trying to get a square landing like this:

I had no trouble getting this by selecting the landing and using the shape handles to adjust it to be square like this. it essentially has 0 distance between the 2 runs. In your video you were adjusting the run length. I would adjust the landing edge position and let the run adjust to it.

[courage93]

I apologize for the misunderstanding, but I do NOT want a square landing, I want an "almost square" landing if that makes sense, in the end of this video, you would see exactly the landing that I want highlighted in error orange. the landing extends into the first flight only slightly (a few centimeters). but Revit does not allow me to have such short extra distance.

[loboarch]

Same thing. Adjust using shape handles on the landing.

[courage93]

again, i do NOT want a square landing. I attached another video of me using the shape handles (the blue arrows if i'm correct).

I do not understand, I think it's better If I give up now 😅

[loboarch · Accepted solution]

Way too many variables that may be causing the problem. Without knowing all of the geometric conditions, it is impossible to to know why it is failing for you. A "very small" landing extension like that IS possible, but in the EXACT condition you have, maybe not.