Section View Range Preset

[Anonymous]

Hi there,

Not sure if this has been asked before but here goes. Is there any way to modify a view template such that when you pull a building section through a plan (in a multi-storey building) that it only shows the structure, i.e walls & floors etc, for specific floors, ground to 1st or 1st to 2nd for instance. Thanks for all and any assistance offered.

Regards

Thomas

[martijn_pater]

You could assign the sections to scope boxes per level? Or you want to do something like this from the template? What model categories etc. to show with visibility graphics, what and how, can be set in the template. The template can be assigned to a section type by editing the type under type properties > identity data.

I don't think there is a way that you can directly assign a scope box in the section type or template when drawing a section.

For using scope boxes, I would probably create a coordination section in which the scope boxes are visible/editable (select scope box under extents -> views visible. You can create a scope box for a level there and, possibly group and, copy that (or array) upwards. As to not have these scope boxes in every other view. FWIW

Or you could probably/maybe use Dynamo to adjust the crop region for specific section type's...?

[Anonymous]

Hi Martijn,

I need a tool such as this for wall elevations when doing builders works drawings floor by floor as is sometimes the case.  Scope boxes have limited use as I would have to put a scope box across the entire floor area, when each of my sections really only requires the far clip offset to be the far side of the wall that I require the elevation of. See below:

[Anonymous]

Your question is not clear, as your title refers to view range, but the question asks about specific elements (structural). 

If you would like to show specific elements, you could add filters to your view templates to only show certain objects - it should be easy if the elements are logically named.  Depending on your workset set-up you may consider using worksets in the template to control the visibility of elements.

If you're asking about view range, Martijn's suggestion of a scope box may be the solution - it can be re-applied to multiple views.

[martijn_pater]

Is there a reason you wouldn't use elevation tool for this, but section instead?
If not. Have a look at view --> Elevation --> place inside enclosure--> (select marker) right-click go to elevation

[Anonymous]

Thanks Martijn,

When you say, create a coordination section in which the scope boxes are visible/editable, do you mean doing this via the use of a view template, whereby I switch on the scope box annotation element?

Also "You can create a scope box for a level there?? What do you mean by there? Sorry fort not understanding you correctly.

When you say group and copy or array do you mean group and copy all the scope boxes from floor to floor. Also is there a way to align a scope box with a level other than by eye?

Thanks for all your help, think I am nearly there with a solution.

Regards

Thomas

[Anonymous]

Hi Tim,

Thanks for your reply. Apologies if i didnt make myself clear. My specific
concern was related to an option whereby every time i created a section I
could essentially remove the part in the workflow whereby I then have to
open that section and change the view range extents myself manually by
picking on the grips at the top and bottom of the crop region.

Regards

Tom

[Anonymous]

Ok, thanks for the clarification.

I would second Martijn's suggestion of using Elevations rather than sections - they typically crop beyond the wall thats being elevated and by default adjust their height to be between the wall and ceiling.

[ToanDN]

You can somewhat control the far clip offset upon creation of the section view by drawing a short section, then you can stretch to widen the section afterward. Combine it with using Detail instead of Building Section also helps.  below are example of the differences when I draw the sections.

[Anonymous]

Hi there,

Yes I think I will use Martijn's Scop box approach moving forward. Just
waiting on reply to clarify one or two things from his last post.

Thanks

Thomas

[RDAOU]

@Anonymous 

Didn't manage to read through...I just thought from the tilt that you are looking for a solution to fix the view depth of sections. But if a scope box does it 🙂 all good then

Good luck

[ToanDN]

Scope boxes are useful when you want to crop/rotate a bunch of views exactly the same, for example: a partial floor plan, ceiling plan, finish plan, equipment plan, etc.. of the same area, then yes assign a scope box to those views and you are set.  Or to set 3d extent of grids/levels/ref planes.

I don't see how using scope boxes adding any benefit to what you are doing.  You still have to draw them manually, then manually stretch them XYZ if you want to change the size, then assign each scope box to each section view, then hide them in templates.  Care to explain what you gain by doing so?