Rotate Conceptual Mass?

[PhilvK]

If I create a Conceptual Mass in the Front/Back plane (1^st image), how do I rotate it in plan in the Level 1 plane (2^nd image)? This has got to be easy, but I cannot figure it out! Thank you.

[Anonymous]

Hi PhilvK,

Since your mass profile is on the front/back plane I will suggest that you will rotate the plane. if you don't want to rotate your front/back plane you can create a new one. 

Check this out: https://screencast.autodesk.com/main/details/bf84f59d-79c9-4b43-86d8-c1f408c0ead4

Anyway, if you wanty to add some parameters to your family, you have to create a network of reference lines and to draw your mass profile on the reference plane of the reference line. (till now I couldn't find a way to rotate a reference plane with parameters).

check the video below and the attached file:

https://screencast.autodesk.com/main/details/f150fa0d-f57c-412b-ad62-8fec74c3ff78

Hope this helps!

Lucian

[PhilvK]

Is the answer to this: You can't rotate it becasue it was created in another reference plane"?

[PhilvK]

I posted my quick reply before I got yours. Thanks again!

[Anonymous]

I think  that the mass is locked on the reference plane of the mass profile. 

[PhilvK]

I believe you are right.

[scott_d_davis]

you *can* rotate it, but it will require you drawing a Ref Line first (ref lines have endpoints and will rotate).  A Ref Line is made up of 2 Ref Planes, one horizontal and one vertical.  Set the workplane to the horizontal plane of the Ref Line, then sketch your shape.  Then, you will be able to grip one endpoint of your Ref Line to roate your shape off the "base" plane.

[Alfredo_Medina]

The previous solutions suggest that the user should have done something before creating this mass, but what would be the solution now that this object has already been created, without starting over?

[Anonymous]

Just simply to rotate the plane on which the mass profile was created.

[Alfredo_Medina]

My point is that the solutions that have been presented suggest that the user has to start over, create either a reference plane or a reference line and then create the form. That´s miy point, that this suggestion of going backwards in the process and redoing the form is not necessary.

[Anonymous]

Hi Alfredo,

Until now, I couldn't find a solution to avoid the rework. Since my theory is that the mass profile is locked on the reference plane I'm thinking maybe my thought are foggy. 

Another option I can think to is to insert the already created mass in another mass. Then the rotation isn't a problem anymore. 

Anyway, if you already know a method which was not presented and will help us to avoid to step back in design process, would be great if you can share it with us.

Regards,

Lucian

[Alfredo_Medina]

Hi, Lucian,

Yes, there are some alternatives to rotate this or any object without having to start over and without nesting into another family or without rotating the center front/back reference plane which might be necessary to stay there for other things. I will make a video this evening after work to show those options.

[PhilvK]

Lucian and Alfredo -

For whatever it’s worth, I got a little impatient and quickly constructed my mass in Autocad and imported it into Revit. Very easy to do, and I can copy and rotate it to my heart’s content! As I explained in my response to another thread I came across having to do with importing 3D masses, the ease of this may have to do with my Autocad experience, and being new to Revit. Nonetheless, I will continue to see why Revit can’t seem to be able to be as flexible. Thank you both for your continued respsonses.

[Anonymous]

I look forward!

[Alfredo_Medina]

That's all right, Phil, but if you really want to work on Revit, at some point you need to learn how to do everything in Revit. Those "shortcuts" from AutoCAD, in the long run, are not a good idea. I will post a video tonight explaining the options for this rotation.

[PhilvK]

I agree with you!

[Anonymous]

Hi PhilvK,

Check this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y8FcHV8HHk 

Based on this ideea I made another video. So as Alfredo said, is not always good to get back and reconstruct what you have done. So, using this option, you have only to change the host of your mass.

Check this out:

https://screencast.autodesk.com/main/details/47a10a63-05f9-478d-a75f-ea9ad708b4f1

Regards,

Lucian

[Alfredo_Medina · Accepted solution]

This video describes two methods:

[PhilvK]

Alfredo - Excellent video, and very informative! Thank you for taking the time to produce it.

[PhilvK]

Darn - did it again: accepted my reply instead of the solution! Forum moderators feel free to correct it.