Room Area

[dm0144]

Hello everyone

Is it possible to calculate the area of the room where do door insert is, and not just till the face of the wall (plus the blue outline in the screenshot)?

The uncalculated area is significant when door repeats many times, such as in a large or tall building.

Any solution?

[ToanDN]

You would need to set the wall to not boundinh room and draw room separation lines manually. Or split the wall at the opening, fill the opening with another wall the same thickness of an the door, and insert the door in that thin wall.

[dm0144]

@ToanDN that is soo manual work for a BIM tool.. pitty.

[ToanDN]

You can try rentable Area plan and use Areas instead of Rooms.

[barthbradley]

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@dm0144 wrote:

@ToanDN that is soo manual work for a BIM tool.. pitty.

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No manual work or rework here if it is modeled the way it will be built.  

[dm0144]

@barthbradley and how did you model it exactly?

[barthbradley]

[dm0144]

@barthbradley the wall above the door opening is usually thich as the surrounding wall. The way you modeled it, it's not correct, at least not desirable in most cases. It looks correct only in floor plan view.

Maybe, one could go further and model the wall above the door as additional piece, but that is such a manual and tedious work for a BIM tool. 

(attached sketch for better understanding)

[RDAOU]

@dm0144 

1. Either host the door in a stacked wall. It is not that tedious when you kick off your model knowing that you will need the areas to cover the door footprint
2. Or use area plans instead of rooms
3. Or simply keep the NET area calculations in schedules rather than Tags 

[barthbradley]

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@dm0144 wrote:

@barthbradley the wall above the door opening is usually thich as the surrounding wall. The way you modeled it, it's not correct, at least not desirable in most cases. It looks correct only in floor plan view.

Maybe, one could go further and model the wall above the door as additional piece, but that is such a manual and tedious work for a BIM tool. 

(attached sketch for better understanding)

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Actually, it is correct, and “desirability” has nothing to do with it. But thank you for trying to school me, young man.

Your question was about how to “calculate the AREA of the room where [the] door insert is” – not how to calculate the VOLUME.  

[dm0144]

@RDAOU Yes, it's doable but, I really hoped that it would be possible to check one parameter within the door that would consider the additional area, just like a competitive software like Archicad.

@barthbradley I have no interest in schooling you, old man.

[RDAOU]

@dm0144 

But then they gave you "area" plans, use them as per 2nd GIF in previous reply!! those were single walls with inserts 

[dm0144]

@RDAOU 

In the second GIF, which instance parameter did you change from 250 to 50? How did the area boundary line recognized the door inserts by default? Are the doors hosted to stacked wall or is it a modification in the door family?

[RDAOU]

@dm0144 

It is the parameter that controls the wall closure from the insert family. 

It doesn't make a difference where you host it, basic or stacked works the same. In the latter you would select the lower/bottom section as the primary host. 

[kadmonkee]

try the settings in your Area and Volume Computations menu select the option that gets the result you want