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mygmamode
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Revit wall

mygmamode
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Can Someone pls explain how to achieve this type of wall on revit

 

thanks in advance

 

 54b08986e58ece528e000065_primary-school-for-sciences-and-biodiversity-chartier-dalix-architectes_chartierdalix_blg_vue_imbrication_blocs-david_foessel.jpg

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Revit wall

Can Someone pls explain how to achieve this type of wall on revit

 

thanks in advance

 

 54b08986e58ece528e000065_primary-school-for-sciences-and-biodiversity-chartier-dalix-architectes_chartierdalix_blg_vue_imbrication_blocs-david_foessel.jpg

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L.Maas
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Wow that is something different.

 

I think it will depend on how the wall works in real life and how detailed you want to approach it in Revit.

Can you get away with a material to simulate the looks of the wall ? Or do you need to model it?

Is the wall randomly stacked blocks or is there a repeating pattern?

If there is a repeating pattern you could consider to make a curtain wall and use one/several panel(s) for repetition.

 

How many walls do you have to make and how different are they? Otherwise you could consider to make a family and construct the wall in there and maybe use it as  a facade of a regular wall.

 

A good point of reference would be to look how the wall is constructed in real life. This normally gives a clue how to model it in Revit.

 

There are probably more solutions to your problem depending on your requirements

 

 

 

 

Louis

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Wow that is something different.

 

I think it will depend on how the wall works in real life and how detailed you want to approach it in Revit.

Can you get away with a material to simulate the looks of the wall ? Or do you need to model it?

Is the wall randomly stacked blocks or is there a repeating pattern?

If there is a repeating pattern you could consider to make a curtain wall and use one/several panel(s) for repetition.

 

How many walls do you have to make and how different are they? Otherwise you could consider to make a family and construct the wall in there and maybe use it as  a facade of a regular wall.

 

A good point of reference would be to look how the wall is constructed in real life. This normally gives a clue how to model it in Revit.

 

There are probably more solutions to your problem depending on your requirements

 

 

 

 

Louis

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Please mention Revit version, especially when uploading Revit files.

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rodrigo.bezerra
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I would only advise that, one way or another, modeling this geometry will increase your file's size and ask a lot of your hardware to process smoothly. You may consider to do a custom pattern (draft or model, depending on what you wanna achieve) for elevations, and work the volume only with relief/bump patterns to render.

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Rodrigo Bezerra

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I would only advise that, one way or another, modeling this geometry will increase your file's size and ask a lot of your hardware to process smoothly. You may consider to do a custom pattern (draft or model, depending on what you wanna achieve) for elevations, and work the volume only with relief/bump patterns to render.

Regards

Rodrigo Bezerra

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chrisplyler
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So I made this in about fifteen minutes. I'll show the pattern panel family, and the divided-surface mass already loaded into a project. The pattern panel is just full of rectangular forms. No effort was made to develop the functionality to bend smoothly around curves. Nor did I mess with giving every form a random angle. Those things would take a lot more work I think. Then I had to play around with the divided surface spacing; too tight and the pattern overlaps itself. Too large and it spreads apart. Basically, the grid size in the panel family has to match the spacing of the dividing lines in the mass family.

 

So anyway... it is at least possible.

 

But I strongly recommend just developing a model hatch pattern for your model instead, and perhaps just a small section of this if you want to create a 3D "detail" of how the stack should work. If you use this for a large building model, I hope you've got the biggest, baddest computer in your town.

 

Panel family:

 

stackpattern.jpg

 

 

And the mass in a project:

 

patternbasedstack.jpg

So I made this in about fifteen minutes. I'll show the pattern panel family, and the divided-surface mass already loaded into a project. The pattern panel is just full of rectangular forms. No effort was made to develop the functionality to bend smoothly around curves. Nor did I mess with giving every form a random angle. Those things would take a lot more work I think. Then I had to play around with the divided surface spacing; too tight and the pattern overlaps itself. Too large and it spreads apart. Basically, the grid size in the panel family has to match the spacing of the dividing lines in the mass family.

 

So anyway... it is at least possible.

 

But I strongly recommend just developing a model hatch pattern for your model instead, and perhaps just a small section of this if you want to create a 3D "detail" of how the stack should work. If you use this for a large building model, I hope you've got the biggest, baddest computer in your town.

 

Panel family:

 

stackpattern.jpg

 

 

And the mass in a project:

 

patternbasedstack.jpg

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mygmamode
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i've tried this method but when loading the curtain panel into the project, the curtain panel is not in the list 😕
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i've tried this method but when loading the curtain panel into the project, the curtain panel is not in the list 😕
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rodrigo.bezerra
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If the panel is pattern based, you can only use in a curtain system applied
to a mass.

Rodrigo Bezerra

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If the panel is pattern based, you can only use in a curtain system applied
to a mass.

Rodrigo Bezerra

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chrisplyler
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Not just any mass either. I don't think pattern based stuff is available for curtain systems created on an in-place mass in the project. You've got to do a mass family, divide the surface, and apply a pattern based curtain panel family to it, then load the whole thing into a project as a unit.

 

So you aren't actually loading a curtain panel into the project. You're loading a mass family that happens to have a curtain panel nested into it.

 

This video walks through it pretty well. This is basically what I did, except of course I made my panel differently.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gbCqRNOFIs

Not just any mass either. I don't think pattern based stuff is available for curtain systems created on an in-place mass in the project. You've got to do a mass family, divide the surface, and apply a pattern based curtain panel family to it, then load the whole thing into a project as a unit.

 

So you aren't actually loading a curtain panel into the project. You're loading a mass family that happens to have a curtain panel nested into it.

 

This video walks through it pretty well. This is basically what I did, except of course I made my panel differently.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gbCqRNOFIs

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rodrigo.bezerra
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Sometimes Revit seems like a RPG game... You can only save the princess
with the right sword, from a certain lost forest, guarded by worse orc,
etc... LoL

Back to what matters, all this small complications only supports the whole
idea of not modeling if it isn't crucial. Imagine latter you reviewing some
or all of this steps because your construction design is slightly different
than what you thought it was...

Regards to you all

Rodrigo Bezerra

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Sometimes Revit seems like a RPG game... You can only save the princess
with the right sword, from a certain lost forest, guarded by worse orc,
etc... LoL

Back to what matters, all this small complications only supports the whole
idea of not modeling if it isn't crucial. Imagine latter you reviewing some
or all of this steps because your construction design is slightly different
than what you thought it was...

Regards to you all

Rodrigo Bezerra

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