revit stair path in sketch mode

[Anonymous]

Is there any arrow i'm missing that defines the direction of the slope when working in sketch mode (working with path and boundaries, not after i click ok!)?

I'm fixing the curve of the stairs as it's not close enough to the correct shape yet, and to do so i delete boundary on one side and redraw it (didn't find a way to move ends of a start-end-radius arc), and after i'm done I get the message that the stairs run and landing cannot be joined because the path is flipped for some reason! Tried many times, drew it in different directions, redrew the path - still always flipped and then if i try to flip after sketch mode the whole staircase flips, which is obviously not what I'm after. Here's before and after i edit the boundary

PS maybe there's a way to make some void form to cut the stairs (as far as i know that's impossible) or some other way to seamlessly integrate the stairs into complex spline shapes to avoid all this trouble altogether? 

[Anonymous]

So has nobody ever had a problem like that? I would really like to figure why this happens so i can actually modify stairs instead of redrawing everything from scratch every time

[alex60]

Hi all,  what I can see in your images is that you did not trim all the riser lines to the boundary lines, if you don't use multiple trim and extend and trim the risers, you could not make the stair. I tried to do it and it was fine. See the attached images.

Hope this will be helpfull, Alex

[Anonymous]

 If you read the text you will see this is not the problem i'm having. Images also show that stair tool works just fine without trimming and it's not an issue.

[Kimtaurus]

Did you use the sketch tool within the Stair by Component tool, or did you use the Stair by Sketch tool?

Check out this blogpost >> Revit stair sketch tool

[Anonymous]

Stair by component tool, then converting components to sketches. When i first added the curves all was fine, and now if i just change the curve's radius it's fine too, but if i redraw the curve this happens.

Read the post, not sure if the "shortcomings with the Stair Path tool for adding stair arrow" is connected to my issue, but if nobody has any fixes for this then i guess I'll have to wait for 2017 release and see if stairs get any better. Thank you for your reply!

[Anonymous]

I found a simple tool to switch the direction of the stair path, which I think is what you're looking for. I created my stairs by sketch but I think the tool will also work for component stairs. Modify| Create Stairs > Tools > Flip. 

[sgreenEG3XN]

I'm in the 2022 version several years later and still having this issue. It's an L-shaped stair with the bottom run needing to fan out in 3 directions from the middle landing. When I try to custom draw the bottom run, it flips the direction of the bottom stair run. The only way I can find to flip the direction of only one of the runs of the stair instead of the entire flight is to break the bottom run out into it's own stair and flip its direction.

Autodesk really needs to just add a feature that lets you control the direction of the stair when drawing the stair path in a custom stair sketch that way you can control the direction of each run individually while keeping the runs as part of the same stair. Because breaking up the runs into separate stairs screws up the stair annotations.

[ToanDN]

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@sgreenEG3XN wrote:

I'm in the 2022 version several years later and still having this issue. It's an L-shaped stair with the bottom run needing to fan out in 3 directions from the middle landing. When I try to custom draw the bottom run, it flips the direction of the bottom stair run. The only way I can find to flip the direction of only one of the runs of the stair instead of the entire flight is to break the bottom run out into it's own stair and flip its direction.

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Mirror the stair run.

[sgreenEG3XN]

I tried that. Mirroring the stair run line has no effect on the direction of the stair. Here's a picture of the stair. If I don't break the bottom two risers(single tread) out into it's own stair there appears to be no way to flip its direction without flipping the direction of the entire stair.

Because when I custom sketch it as a run within the main stair it flips the direction of it. And it was fine until I tried to add a riser line at the red line to make a it a "3-sided" riser. That's when it flips the direction of the run for no apparent reason.

[ToanDN]

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@sgreenEG3XN wrote:

I tried that. Mirroring the stair run line has no effect on the direction of the stair.

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Mirror the entire STAIR RUN after you finished sketching it, not its LINES when you are sketching it.

[sgreenEG3XN]

Before mirroring stair run.

After mirroring stair run

What looks like when I'm editing the sketch to get it to look correct. The circled area is the part that screws up the stair run. For some reason when I make that circled riser line a riser line instead of a border line, the stair direction flips.

After editing stair sketch to be correct, stair direction flips again for no apparent reason. I didn't even touch the stair path line.

[sgreenEG3XN]

And it can't be an issue with how I'm sketching the stair because it looks correct after I flip the stair direction.

But it's ridiculous that there isn't a way to flip the direction of one run at this point without making the run its own stair.

[ToanDN]

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@sgreenEG3XN wrote:

And it can't be an issue with how I'm sketching the stair because it looks correct after I flip the stair direction.

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Copy paste the stair to a new file and share it here.

[sgreenEG3XN]

Thanks for helping with this.

[ToanDN]

Like this?

[sgreenEG3XN]

Essentially. What did you do to get it to work?

[ToanDN]

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@sgreenEG3XN wrote:

Essentially. What did you do to get it to work?

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Copied the run from one stair and pasted it in the other.

[sgreenEG3XN]

lol well I feel like an idiot. I didn't even think about doing that.

[stalaqiE7UVR]

thx bro this helped me so much