Revit Model Fill Pattern Orientation Issue

[Anonymous]

Hello,

I'm having an issue with the Model Fill Patterns.  For some reason the orientation of the hatch is different in one of my floor plans.  I don't see a difference between the properties of the views.  Both views have a project north orientation.

Any idea whats going on?

Edit: Yes, I know you can just rotate the hatch, but I dont think this would be a good long term solution to have to rotate the model hatch in specific views

Thanks,

Ramon

[jair_gh]

Is it a slopped floor or the floor points have been modified? That can change the orientation of the pattern.

[Anonymous]

Hello Jair,

No it is not applied to an element. Sorry, i forgot to mention that these are just the filled region annotations. So the image attached just shows a filled region that uses a model fill pattern

[ToanDN]

Is the pattern set to orient to element or view?

[Anonymous]

Hello Toan,

The pattern is not applied to a material or an element.  I am just using the Filled Region detail annotation. Sorry I will make that clear in my original post!

I did not see any option for aligning the pattern of the detail annotation to view or to element.

EDIT:  I seem to not be able to edit the topic name or my original post  😞 I will clarify things on this edit just in case

To clarify, I am using a filled region detail annotation.  This filled region uses a model fill pattern and not a drafting fill pattern.  The image attached to my original post is showing that on one Floor Plan view, the filled region is showing up with the right orientation, while on the other view the filled region shows up with an angle.  There is no difference between these two views according to the properties menu (other than they are referencing different levels)

Thank you for all the replies so far! I really appreciate it!

[ToanDN]

No.  That setting is under the filled pattern definition itself.  It does not belong to a material or a filled region definition.

[Anonymous]

Hello Toan,

I don't seem to have that option when making model fill patterns.  I believe that orient to view/element/etc. is only available when you are creating drafting fill patterns.

I have attached an image of what it looks like when I try to create a model fill pattern and a drafting fill pattern.

Thank you

[ToanDN]

You are correct.  My apology.

If your region was created at an angle, or rotated to an angle, then the boundary was edited to line up with hor/ver orientation, then the model pattern stays at the original orientation.

[Anonymous]

Ohh, so all I would have to do is:

1)  Create the filled region on the view where the orientation is wrong

2)  Rotate the filled region to the proper orientation

Then from this moment forward, any filled regions that I create should be in the right orientation for that view?

Sorry I don't have Revit access right now but I will test this out tomorrow and will give an update!  Thank you for your help!

[Anonymous]

Hello,

Rotating the pattern doesn't seem to reset the pattern's default orientation.

I realize now that I have not explained the issue very well. I apologize.

The issue that I am having is that the DEFAULT orientation of the filled region for some reason is different in one floor plan.

In the image attached,  the default orientation of the filled region on Floor Plan - LEVEL 2 is in the right orientation.

But as you can see, on Floor Plan - LEVEL 01, the filed region default orientation is wrong/different.

Thanks again for all the help so far.

[ToanDN]

You cannot reset it. Just rotate the filled region so thay the pattern orients correctly, then edit the boundary to fix the shape.

[Anonymous]

Hello,

I have just recently found that when you delete the floor plan and recreate it (or just creating a new floor plan in general), that it resets the orientation.  Unfortunately,  duplicating the view does not reset it.

I guess I could just recreate the floor plan and copy over all my annotations. 

I hope someone from Autodesk could give me a reason why the orientation of the filled region (that uses model fill patterns) for some of the views would have a different orientation than the rest?  Could it just be corrupted code?  This issue is happening with our template file, so right now the projects using that template all have this issue.

Thank you for your time and recommendations, Toan!

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymouswrote:

I hope someone from Autodesk could give me a reason why the orientation of the filled region (that uses model fill patterns) 

If you are indeed using a "model pattern" for a filled region. all you have to do is tab on the lines of the pattern then select a line and use the rotate button to rotate the pattern where you need it.  This does not work with "drafting patterns".

[Anonymous]

Hello mp,

Yes, this would work.  But my issue is that the exact same filled region using a model pattern has a different default orientation in one floor plan and another floor plan.

So on the 1st floor plan, the filled region would have the correct orientation, but once I switch to my second floor plan and create a new filled region, the orientation would be wrong.

If i copy the filled region from the first floor plan and paste it to the second floor plan, the filled region that I copied would have the right orientation.  It is only when I create a filled region from scratch on the second floor plan that the orientation is wrong.

So far the only way I know of that would get rid of this issue is to recreate (not duplicate) the floor plan using View>Plan Views>Floor Plan>Uncheck "Do not duplicate existing views".

I guess it could just be corrupted code.

Thanks!

[Anonymous]

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@Anonymouswrote:

I guess it could just be corrupted code.

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Or like @ToanDN mentioned, your views are not looking that the same direction.  Perhaps one is looking at True North and another is Project North?  Or your model is corrupted.  Doubt it is corrupted code.  What version of Revit are you using and what are the exact steps you took to make it rotate so that we can test it out on our installation?

Question is...what are you using these fill patterns for?  There might be a better method of accomplishing your goal.  Usually the only place I use fill patterns are drafting views...occasionally sections.

[Anonymous]

Hello mp,

All of the views are facing the same way: Project North.  As far as I can tell, there is nothing different with the views other than they are referencing a different level.

I am just trying to find a reason why this is happening so that it can be resolved and/or prevented in the future.  So I would say that the use is just for general usage by the users.

Attached is a copy of a Revit 2017 file that will show the issue. (Make a filled region on Level 01 and Level 02)  I would really appreciate it if someone could take a look, as maybe there is something that I have missed in the properties or settings.

I really appreciate all the help and feedback! Thank you!

EDIT: I did not rotate the hatch at all.  It's default orientation just seems to be different in one view and another view.  So if i make a filled pattern from scratch at Level 01, its orientation is different at Level 02.

[Anonymous]

CTRL+C /CTRL-V works just fine.

Duplicate with detailing works just fine.

And I can easily rotate the "wrong" pattern to where it needs to be.

Thinking your model has issues.