Revit misbehaving when editing walls

Revit misbehaving when editing walls

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Revit misbehaving when editing walls

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I have been trying to change my exterior wall type to a compound wall that has different exterior finish materials and different structural elements (change in size of metal stud).  When I go through the rest of the building, the other elements that are affected by this change are not changing the way that they ought to (storefront alignments, sizes, mullion types).  Does anyone know how I can overcome what appears to be a SERIOUS BUG in Revit?

 

Thanks!

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ToanDN
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It's not a bug.  You need to carefully review the Location Lines of your existing walls before changing them to new types.

 

If you create them with Location set to Exterior face, when you change the walls to another type with a different thickness, the location of the Exterior face stays, and the Interior face moves.  If the initial Location Line is Center, then the Center stays, and both Exterior and Interior sides move.

 

 

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chrisplyler
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Maybe it's just because I'm used to Revit after many years, but I don't think any of the three items mentioned failing to change with host wall type is a bug.

 

If you want your storefronts aligned to a particular face of a wall, align/lock it there. Mullions are profiles, and if you want them to change, either build them parametricly or edit the profiles. They have no association to host wall thickness.

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barthbradley
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I just want jump in here and emphasize the point Toan made, because it is a critically important to understand. The Wall Location Lines need to be carefully considered and decided upon – BEFORE dimensioning and BEFORE constraining other elements to them dimensionally (e.g. door, windows, other walls). If you don’t, you will have a mess of fires to deal with down the road as the project builds. I promise.

 

You’ve already experienced one of those fires; a small one. Your simple modification to one wall’s façade or wall finish has moved the location of a few other walls locations in your project. You’re lucky. Imagine the cascade of fires that it could have caused if all your walls were constrained together dimensionally – and each one was flexing differently. Then that one little change could have then affected the location of every single wall and hosted element in the project.

 

My suggestion: before going any further, check and correct if necessary, all your wall location lines. Make sure that they flex correctly in relationship to their location lines. Also, when you do place dimensions, pull them to and from the wall location lines. Wall Location Line = Dimension Line Origin. If you typically pull dimensions from Faces of Core (as we do), then have your wall location lines set to Core Face: Interior, or Core Face: Exterior. 

 

Good Luck 

 

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