Revit 2016 to 2017 Text Issue

[Anonymous]

Hi,

We have just upgraded to Revit 2017 from Revit 2016 and have noticed that all of our text is now larger.

Our standard Text is Verdana 2.5mm. Everything was annotated in 2016 Revit with this text. However, now that we have upgraded our model to 2017 the text is larger and is overlapping. When we go to "Edit Type" it still says Verdana 2.5mm but the text is definately not the same size it was when we were using Revit 2016.

Has anyone else had this problem? Or does anyone have any ideas? For now we will reduce our text size.

Thank you,

Jason

[Anonymous · Accepted solution]

Yes, it is a known update that the text has been changed to be the actual height of the capital letters.

More in depth here:http://revitoped.blogspot.com/2016/04/revit-2017-upgrading-text-warning.html

[Anonymous]

yeah it happened to us too.  seems like a big oversight by the designers of revit in my opinion.

[Anonymous]

I want to know how this was released. This "upgrade" has completely destroyed our annotation system and all existing drawings. 

[Anonymous]

This is a very easy fix and its actually a windows setting:

Windows

1. Right click on desktop:

                Select Personalize

2. Select Display - Lower Left

3. Select Smaller – 100%

It will require a Reboot of the machine.

Windows 10

1. Right click on desktop:

                Select Display Settings

2. Adjust the slider bar at Change the size of text, apps and other items to 100%

3. Hit Apply

This will resolve all the text issues in Revit 2017

[Anonymous]

thanks Ghines - I will try that.  

Since I have 4k monitors (3840x2160) my windows 10 scale was set to 150% by default.  All the other computers in our office are regular monitors (1920x1080) and were set to 100%.  Although I have not tested it yet this may fix my issue.  I installed both service packs for Revit 2017, but we were still having issues where the text "container" on my screen was different than others working on the same file (workshairing) using non-4k montiors.  So when I would set the "container" of a text box to a certain sizeon my computer it would be smaller on someone else's screen that selected the exact same text box.  The result was text boxes getting crunched and not all the text would show if you printed to PDF on a non-4k monitor where windows is default 100% and not 150%.

Only issue I see now is that all my "windows" text and icons are SUPER small since scaling was turned down to 100% on a 4k monitor.  Is there a way to have just that 100% scaling for Revit 2017 program only?  So I can run windows 10 at a larger scale?

-Erik

[Anonymous]

We had the same issue after we installed the service packs with the same results.

As for your question, I'm not sure if you can modify text/windows setting per specific software. That may be something you want to run past your IT group.

We don't use 4K monitors, so with everyone setting it to 100%, our issues went away, instantly.

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[Anonymous]

sounds good.  i wonder if Autodesk can update Revit 2017 to fix this issue of diff. operating system display scales.  i am sure many others are having this issue...

[Anonymous]

Its been rough ....then to only find out it's an easy Windows setting.

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[Anonymous]

We have 20 users running 4k monitors, and this change has had no effect on it since the bug reared its head. We had to drag the text boxes out a tiny amount, in hundreds of existing files and have, after quite some time, recovered.

But the monitor text size did not have anything to do with it for us.

[Anonymous]

Jasonium,  are you talking about the text issue of upgrading from revit 2016 to revit 2017 only?  That is still a problem because the 2016 text needs to be updated to 2017 text (they are completely diff text systems).  Any old file that is not 2017 or has to be upgraded to 2017 will have the text issue and you will need to manually adjust all the text boxes.  It is def. a pain in the ****!

Once upgraded to revit 2017 and adjusting all the text boxes to fit the new revit 2017 text system we were still having issues with creating text boxes on one computer and the same text box looked different (size) on another computer.  It appears to be related to the scaling of windows operating system.  Since you have all 4k monitors you are probably not seeing this issue because everyone is at the same scale.  It only really comes up when you have two diff computers running at different operating system display scales.  100% display scale on a non-4k monitor and 150% display scale on a 4k monitor in my case.

I just did a test on two computers here in the office and it worked, but the issue of having an old file (pre revit 2017) and upgrading it is still a problem.  You gotta manually adjust them all and save in 2017.

-Erik

[Anonymous]

I am able to reproduce what you are talking about now. I only had the mindset that this thread was discussing the upgrade from 2016 to 2017 (which slaughtered us).

We have a department protocol that all monitors must be set at 100% text size due to palette issues - I guess this helps to prevent the latest text issue too!

[Anonymous]

I totally feel your pain on upgrading man.  I was so mad that all our old revit files I had spent countless hours setting up over the past 10 years needed to be reorganized/adjusted.  Trying to explain this to older guys not using revit but are part of the design team and drawing standards was not fun.  Made me look foolish for pushing to upgrade to the latest version of Revit.  Not a good sales tactic in my opinion, but autodesk knows were all hooked on their software...

All-in-all though its a better text system in 2017 it just sucks upgrading to it!

-Erik

[Anonymous]

We have 2x 1440p monitors in our office and 2x 1080p. We are finding that the only way we can sort this out is by having everyone on the same windows scale of 125% (the senior designers have a hard time seeing smaller icons). Never had an issue before that with 2016. Is there a better approach to this? I understand that you can drag your text box out larger, however, if an employee using a 1080p monitor inputs text into a new revit project, then I go into, I just goof it all up. It's minor, usually just a handful of fixes, but it certainly introduces quality control problems that are very difficult to catch when you have 30 plus page sets of drawings. We shouldn't have to upgrade all of our monitors to have the program flawlessly like the old version.