Revision Clouds in Revit

[Anonymous]

I am currently working in Revit 2016.  Projects are relatively small, but I'm coming across a barrier I can't find an answer to.  I have projects that have multiple revisions in them.  I can place a revision cloud for the first revision, REV 1, and one for the second revision, REV 2.  But I cannot find out how to keep the cloud for REV 2 on while losing the cloud for REV 1.  

If I turn off the REV 1 cloud in the view, I lose the REV 1 issuance in the Title Block. - BAD as I'd like to track revisions to the sheet.

If I turn off the Revisions Cloud under Visibility Graphics, I lose all couds inclulding REV 2, but keep the issuance in the Title Block - Okay, but I need my current revision to stay on.

Is there a way I turn off previous revision clouds while keeping the current revision cloud on while keeping the revisions list of all revisions in the title block?

Second Question is there a way to keep the revision tags from previous revisions while losing the revision clouds?  I found I can turn off the Revision Tags in Visibility Graphics and keep the clouds, but if I turn off the Revision Clouds, I lose both Clouds and Tags. I'd like to lose the clouds and keep the tag relative to where changes took place.

[doug · Accepted solution]

Yes, you can do what you desire.

It isn't actually done through visibility settings.

Go to the Sheet Issues/Revision dialog box available from the Manage tab -> Additional Settings menu.  Go to the Show column to the right and change the option from "Cloud and Tag" to just "Tag" for the previous revision(s).  In your example, this is REV 1.  This will turn off the cloud and leave the tag.  You also have the "None" option if you no longer to see the tag or cloud.

This is a global setting for the entire project and not specific sheets.

I hope this helps.

Doug

[Anonymous]

Yes and no.  I was managing Revisions By Project instead of By Sheet.  When I change the visibility of one, it change them all.  So I changed the revision managment to By Sheet and could control each one indivudually. Then once I had it they way I wanted I changed back to By Project and it kept the settings.  Not sure if it was a fluke or what, because now I can change each one indivually even with By Project selected.

In any case, problem solved, thanks for the input.

[bee_vang]

Doug,

How do you set it so that you can control the revision clouds in each sheet?

[doug]

If you are numbering revisions on a project-wide basis, that setting will affect the revisions across all of the sheets.  If you want different revision numbers for each sheet, then in the Sheet Issues/Revisions dialog box, go to the right side of it and choose the Per Sheet option under Numbering.

Doug

[bee_vang]

Per Sheet option does not do what I would like the revision clouds to do. It will only renumber the sequence and that is not what I want. I don't think Revit is capable of this function.

Here's an explanation as to what I would like Revit revision to do.

In example, lets say I have a set of drawing with revisions 1 through 5. On sheet A, I have revision 1. On sheet B, I have revisions 2, 3, and 4. On sheet C, I have revision 1, 3, 4, and 5.

I want only the latest revision cloud(s) on a revised sheet to be on. In example, sheet A, I want revision 1 cloud to be on. Sheet B, I want revision clouds 2 and 3 to be off and revision cloud 4 to be on. Sheet C, I want revision clouds 1 and 3 to be off and revision clouds 4 and 5 to be on.

If I were to turn revision clouds 1, 2, and 3 off and turn revision clouds 4 and 5 on for sheets B and C, then on sheet A and B, the revision clouds 1, 2, and 3 will be turned off. If I turn revision clouds 1, 2, and 3 on, then it will also come on sheets B and C.

I have looked at all options in Revit, but there is no way to control individual clouds per sheet.

[bee_vang]

Please Help - Does anyone have workaround or solution?

[David_W_Koch]

@bee_vang:  I do not believe anyone will be able to give you a way to do what you want to do; certainly not without customization beyond the out-of-the-box tools.  The "per sheet" revision option only affects the numbering applied at each sheet.  The options to show clouds and tags, tags only or neither is per revision sequence, and global to the project.

We maintain a "rack set" of the latest versions of each sheet (previously as a hard copy rack set; now moving to PDF-based "electronic rack set") that does what you want, but in the Revit model, generally will only have the current revision sequence's clouds turned on.

[bee_vang]

Thanks for the reply.

I believe this item to be a very simple fix that Autodesk needs to look into.

[PaulusPresent_BB]

Dear bee.vang

I believe the workflow you are looking for is possible with out of the box Revit functionality.

I would advise you to add revisions for each sheet uniquely. That way you can control the visibility of each revision on each sheet. No need to say you will end up with more revisions in total, but that to me seems hardly a problem if this could solve your workflow. It is no problem for Revit to have multiple revisions with the same date.

In you example thus you will need:

For sheet A:

- 1 revision A1

For sheet B:

- 3 revisions B1, B2 and B3

For sheet C:

- 4 revisions C1, C2, C3 and C4

8 revisions in total instead of 5.

A1 and C1 will have the same date.

B2 and C2 will have the same date.

B3 and C3 will have the same date.

As each revision is uniquely associated with 1 sheet you will have full control over the visibility of the revisions per sheet as explained in a previous post by doug.

Kind regards

[Anonymous]

Hello,

i am suffering from same problem so in this situation what can i do?

[ToanDN]

There are multiple questions in this thread. Which one is the same as your problem? Since this is marked as solved, you cab start your own thread.

[Anonymous]

In this thread there is post no. 6 by bee.vang.

That is the problem in which i'm suffering. So i want to ask to bee.vang how he have solved that problem.  

[bvm76]

have you tried using the "current revision label and current description" instead of the revision table. see attached.

[Anonymous]

thank you so much, this was very helpful.

[davidjimm]

A workaround I have found that I use is to make the color of the cloud white, so it doesn't print, then editing the cloud if need be to a smaller cloud that doesn't make any other objects have blocked out spots.