Retaining walls in Revit LT???

Retaining walls in Revit LT???

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Retaining walls in Revit LT???

biztrobill
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Hi, All. I'm modeling terrain in LT and I need retaining walls. Pads won't do the job because I need warped surfaces on both sides of the retaining wall. I'm actually considering doing a 2d grading plan but that's gotta be a dead end idea. Any thots? Workarounds? Suggestions?

Bill Fowler NCARB
Revit LT Suite 2024
Mac M2 Pro Mini, Apple Studio Display; w/ macOS Ventura, Parallels 18, Windows 11. 32GB memory (Parallels assigns 16GB for Windows virtual machine)
Solo Architecture practice in residential and small commercial design.
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ToanDN
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Something like this?

 

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barthbradley
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@biztrobill wrote:

Pads won't do the job because I need warped surfaces on both sides of the retaining wall. 


 

What do you mean by "warped surfaces"?  

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barthbradley
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Maybe you mean sloped terrain on both sides?

 

Warped.png

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biztrobill
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Thanks, ToanDN.

Your illustration looks like it might be a pad, sloping in one direction, right? I'm trying to make a retaining wall that cuts the toposurface so I can slope each side of the wall independently and in more than one direction (warp). Screen clip attached.

Maybe there's a workaround, like splitting the surface or subregions? 

Bill Fowler NCARB
Revit LT Suite 2024
Mac M2 Pro Mini, Apple Studio Display; w/ macOS Ventura, Parallels 18, Windows 11. 32GB memory (Parallels assigns 16GB for Windows virtual machine)
Solo Architecture practice in residential and small commercial design.
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barthbradley
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Something like this?

 

Warped2.png

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biztrobill
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Thanks, barthbradley. Actually I'm not looking for a wall shape. I'm looking for a way to use a retaining wall to let me define different 2-direction slopes on either side. It's a 3D problem. As I tried to explain, a pad won't work because it only slopes in one direction.

Bill Fowler NCARB
Revit LT Suite 2024
Mac M2 Pro Mini, Apple Studio Display; w/ macOS Ventura, Parallels 18, Windows 11. 32GB memory (Parallels assigns 16GB for Windows virtual machine)
Solo Architecture practice in residential and small commercial design.
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ToanDN
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It was a real retaining wall sitting on a pad.
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barthbradley
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Both photos I posted are modeled.  As I showed, I used a SLOPED Building Pad which also inserts with it a Topo Infill which it cuts the Toposurface.  FWIW: This is how cut/fill computations are made in Revit -- from the Topo Infill; not from the Pad. 

 

BTW, the Section Views (of the model) were done to show how I was interpreting a "warped surface".    I've never heard that term used in relationship to site work such as you are describing.   

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barthbradley
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@biztrobill wrote:

As I tried to explain, a pad won't work because it only slopes in one direction.


 

Have you considered using two pads sloping in opposing directions.  

 

 

You know you can "cut" the Toposurface yourself?  I mean, you don't need a pad to cut it.   If you know the elevations and/or slopes, it just a placing/removing points at the right locations.  

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biztrobill
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I might have figured it out. I used the Split Surface tool to define a rectangle for the area on the uphill side of my retaining wall, and then I deleted some of the points and placed new points to define the new spot elevations. The wall doesn't do the cutting, although that might be a nice feature. Screenshot attached. 

Thanks for the help! 

Bill Fowler NCARB
Revit LT Suite 2024
Mac M2 Pro Mini, Apple Studio Display; w/ macOS Ventura, Parallels 18, Windows 11. 32GB memory (Parallels assigns 16GB for Windows virtual machine)
Solo Architecture practice in residential and small commercial design.
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barthbradley
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@biztrobill wrote:

I deleted some of the points and placed new points to define the new spot elevations.


 

Exactly!!! 

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ToanDN
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The retaining walls don't cut but you can draw a pad underneath the walls, same size as the walls, to cut the topo. Look at the picture I posted earlier.
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barthbradley
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4 Building Pads.

 

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