Reloading a Family

[Anonymous]

Hey Everyone

I have a curtain wall door that I needed to edit. I thought it would be a simple task, but now it's turning out to be more trying than I initially anticipated.

Basically I made custome line weights and styles in the family for the door swing and projection (symbolic lines). They have been working well until now. I needed to change the line weight and colour. Which I had done and then reloaded it into the project. Now, when I loaded and chose to "load and override parameters" it did it, but when I came back to the door or other doors of the same family in the project, they had not updated. I have gone back to the family multiple times to change these symbolic lines with no luck later on. Is there a basic thing that I missing?

Regards

Lauren 

[L.Maas · Accepted solution]

Many things in Revit have a specific hierarchy. This means that certain things overrule others.

In this case the project overrules the family (which is logical). After first time loading the family into the project, if they do not yet exist, revit adds things like lines, styles and materials. However when you modify these things in the family and then reload them in Revit, Revit sees that these things are already in the project. As the project takes precedence Revit is not going to change them.

So what you have to do in this case is modify these things lineweights/styles inside the project.

If you are going to use this family in more projects you also will have to make the modifications in the family or your template(s).

[Anonymous]

Hi Louis

Thank you for the help. I have tried it out, but then moments later it reverts back to the old line style with it's colour. Oddly enought the line style in the family has a lighter shade of grey, where as the project has a darker shade. So the family is RGB 192-192-192 and the project is RGB 128-128-128. I want the line to show at 128 but it is not. So it's doing the opposite to the heirachy that you said Revit imposes. 

I am just short of removing this line style from both the project and the families and starting over. A collegue suggested we over wrote these with 2D lines, but I like to keep to the BIM method as when we have done this in the past it always comes back to haunt us. 

Is there maybe something else I could try or something else you could suggest?

Regards

Lauren

[L.Maas]

Hi Lauren,

I would expect that there are overrides (filters, object styles) somewhere. Would it be possible to upload your family and your project? Then I can have a look. If needed strip the project till the relevant parts (check that issue is still there).

(You should be able to upload up to 75Mb here, otherwise use something like wetransfer/dropbox)

[Anonymous]

Hi Louis

I am not permitted to send out any project documents or information. Sorry, I know this does make what I am asking exceedingly difficult. 

I will look for overrides, even though we have an office policy that we shouldn't override, there is always that chance that there was one. 

Regards

Lauren

[Anonymous]

Hi Louis

So I went looking in the Object Styles and Graphic Overrides areas, I found what you were talking about and it seems to have fixed the problem. We had multiple names for this one particular Line Style as it kept doing strange things. But now what I have learnt from you explains why that Line Style with the mulitple name was doing strange things, due to heirachy.

Thanks once again.

Regards 

Lauren