Railing Top Rail Visibility controls in section views is BROKEN!!! My darawings are all ruined after upgrading to 2022.

[arautio]

We use the Top Rail feature of railings to show a railing as a symbolic line in plan.  I use a tiny profile for the rail and always just have it hidden in sections using visibility graphics, and turning off Top Rail catagory of Railings.  Since upgrading to 2022 this is broken,  and my boss wants all the little black dots appearing next to railing to go away.  Please fix, or come here and spend all day making masking regions in all the views for my hundreds of project.  Please.

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The little black dot in the section view above is a Top Rail Profile,   Top Rails are turned off in the view as you can clearly see,  but the top rails now show up in sections in Revit 2022.

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Even Filters will not correct the problem,  if you make a filter for all Top Rails and uncheck visibility they still show.

[L.Maas]

You know this is a user forum? So demanding that somebody comes over and fix the issue and writing WTF everywhere is not the best method to get assistance with your issue. If you want to contact Autodesk personnel you should create a support ticket in your account.

Some things changes in software during the years, intentional or unintentional. In this case it seems that the top rails has become part of the subcategory rails and top-rails

You can see this when using filters

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You see the magenta from the rails subcategory and green from the top rails sub category both shown

If you switch of both sub-categories then it will disssappear

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[arautio]

Well you definitely cant help,   Guinness,  I need to see the OTHER rails in a section,  just not the top one that you could turn off separately, why categorize something as top rail and have individual visibility for it if your going to just lump the item back under the category of rails.  Somebody messed up somewhere and I just need it fixed.

The top Rail visibility button still works for top rails separately than regular rails in both Plan views and 3D views,  some programmer just didnt dot an I or cross a T and section visibility is broken,  they did not just lump top rails under rails claiming  you know what they did when you have no real idea is just wrong.  

You had one good Idea,  support ticket being put in today.

[barthbradley]

I can't replicate what you are showing in your screenshots. That, plus the fact that nobody else has posted about it, leads me to believe that it's not a Revit issue.  Post your file here and let us see how it displays on our end.  . 

[arautio]

barthbradley

 In your test, did the top rail turn off when you unchecked top rail in the section view?  I'm wondering if I have a corrupt railing family, or corrupt template. Or if this has been on and I never noticed it.  

I did a few more tests, and the top rail turns off in Plan, 3d, AND "elevation" views,   just not sections.  I put in a ticket to Autodesk to look into this issue and maybe we can get it resolved.

Thanks for the attempt anyway.

[barthbradley]

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@arautio wrote:

barthbradley

 In your test, did the top rail turn off when you unchecked top rail in the section view?

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Yes.  

If VGO's aren't working, then I suspect you have another override acting on the View - one that is affecting Top Rail.  Maybe a Phasing Graphic Override. Dunno. That's what I wanted to check. 

Element Visibility Override Hierarchy | Revit 2020 | Autodesk Knowledge Network

[arautio]

barthbradley,

Could you upload the Revit file where the rails are off in section view,  I can troubleshoot it further from there.

Thanks bunches.

[barthbradley]

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@arautio wrote:

barthbradley,

Could you upload the Revit file where the rails are off in section view,  I can troubleshoot it further from there.

Thanks bunches.

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I don't understand the request.  It's not a particular Revit FILE characteristic. It's a VGO setting.  Just start a new Project using the "default.rte", go to Plan View and place one of the Rail Types.  Then go to Elevation/Section View, open View Visibility/Graphics Overrides and uncheck "Top Rail" under the "Railings" Model Category. 

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[ToanDN]

@arautio 

Based on a quick test in Revit 2022, top rails not parallel to the section do not respect VGO.

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[arautio]

This is solved by the way,   The development team is correcting the issue in either a hotfix, or in a future release of Revit.