"New method to choose location of studs (wall layers are exposed)"

[Anonymous]

com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011..

can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

i'm just a student in here..

[Anonymous]

com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011..

can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

i'm just a student in here..

[Anonymous]

1,355 posts! that's really something.

[Anonymous]

1,355 posts! that's really something.

[Anonymous]

Help you learn?

If you want to learn, use the program, create a new project for yourself, and experiment with it. Design something for yourself, get
the "book" out and go for broke. The best way to learn is to teach yourself. This isn't some learning center where you pay someone
to teach you how to use the software.

It's your "car", you drive it unless you can afford a chauffer.



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wrote in message news:6395977@discussion.autodesk.com...
com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011..

can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

i'm just a student in here..

[Anonymous]

Help you learn?

If you want to learn, use the program, create a new project for yourself, and experiment with it. Design something for yourself, get
the "book" out and go for broke. The best way to learn is to teach yourself. This isn't some learning center where you pay someone
to teach you how to use the software.

It's your "car", you drive it unless you can afford a chauffer.



--

' ___ '
- (o o) -
ooO--(_)--Ooo



wrote in message news:6395977@discussion.autodesk.com...
com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011..

can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

i'm just a student in here..

[tcorey]

By reading your message title "....wall layers are exposed" do you mean that when you view in elevation you don't see the studs because the walls are in the way? If so, turn off the wall visibility in your framing elevation view, or are you just being facetious? I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

Yes, the Framing Extension is meant to eliminate the need for an external framing program, but this tool is for walls only. You still need an external program for roofs.

Message to the person who told Vector2 to get the book, this forum is not for learning: Are you serious? Of course this forum is for learning. If you don't want to answer questions, don't, but don't discourage people from asking. I too have seen some posts where users basically ask you to write a step-by-step guide for them. Too me, that is excessive, so I don't try to help, but if someone were to want to take the time, more power to him. Usenet is for everyone to participate how and how much they desire. If you want to set rules on what can and can't be asked, start your own board.

Tim Corey

[tcorey]

By reading your message title "....wall layers are exposed" do you mean that when you view in elevation you don't see the studs because the walls are in the way? If so, turn off the wall visibility in your framing elevation view, or are you just being facetious? I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

Yes, the Framing Extension is meant to eliminate the need for an external framing program, but this tool is for walls only. You still need an external program for roofs.

Message to the person who told Vector2 to get the book, this forum is not for learning: Are you serious? Of course this forum is for learning. If you don't want to answer questions, don't, but don't discourage people from asking. I too have seen some posts where users basically ask you to write a step-by-step guide for them. Too me, that is excessive, so I don't try to help, but if someone were to want to take the time, more power to him. Usenet is for everyone to participate how and how much they desire. If you want to set rules on what can and can't be asked, start your own board.

Tim Corey

[Anonymous]

Tom-

the stud location tools are new for 2011
and i would like to hear how others are
using it..

[Anonymous]

Tom-

the stud location tools are new for 2011
and i would like to hear how others are
using it..

[Anonymous]

> I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

yes tcorey i'm a student because although i know
many things about revit- revit is huge and i still need
to learn more..

[Anonymous]

> I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

yes tcorey i'm a student because although i know
many things about revit- revit is huge and i still need
to learn more..

[Anonymous]

I agree that it's for learning, but it is not a place where people come to be taught how to use the software. It is the place to ask
and answer questions.

The original poster's question was this,

"com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011.."

I for one do not have the time nor the inclination to teach someone everything there is to know about "new wall stud placement
feature". That is something you have to learn for yourself or pay someone to teach you.


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ooO--(_)--Ooo



wrote in message news:6397607@discussion.autodesk.com...
By reading your message title "....wall layers are exposed" do you mean that when you view in elevation you don't see the studs
because the walls are in the way? If so, turn off the wall visibility in your framing elevation view, or are you just being
facetious? I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

Yes, the Framing Extension is meant to eliminate the need for an external framing program, but this tool is for walls only. You
still need an external program for roofs.

Message to the person who told Vector2 to get the book, this forum is not for learning: Are you serious? Of course this forum is for
learning. If you don't want to answer questions, don't, but don't discourage people from asking. I too have seen some posts where
users basically ask you to write a step-by-step guide for them. Too me, that is excessive, so I don't try to help, but if someone
were to want to take the time, more power to him. Usenet is for everyone to participate how and how much they desire. If you want to
set rules on what can and can't be asked, start your own board.

Tim Corey

[Anonymous]

I agree that it's for learning, but it is not a place where people come to be taught how to use the software. It is the place to ask
and answer questions.

The original poster's question was this,

"com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011.."

I for one do not have the time nor the inclination to teach someone everything there is to know about "new wall stud placement
feature". That is something you have to learn for yourself or pay someone to teach you.


--

' ___ '
- (o o) -
ooO--(_)--Ooo



wrote in message news:6397607@discussion.autodesk.com...
By reading your message title "....wall layers are exposed" do you mean that when you view in elevation you don't see the studs
because the walls are in the way? If so, turn off the wall visibility in your framing elevation view, or are you just being
facetious? I have seen your posts and know that you are more than "just a student."

Yes, the Framing Extension is meant to eliminate the need for an external framing program, but this tool is for walls only. You
still need an external program for roofs.

Message to the person who told Vector2 to get the book, this forum is not for learning: Are you serious? Of course this forum is for
learning. If you don't want to answer questions, don't, but don't discourage people from asking. I too have seen some posts where
users basically ask you to write a step-by-step guide for them. Too me, that is excessive, so I don't try to help, but if someone
were to want to take the time, more power to him. Usenet is for everyone to participate how and how much they desire. If you want to
set rules on what can and can't be asked, start your own board.

Tim Corey

[Anonymous]

Okay, that's getting down to the crux of the matter. That doesn't quite fit in to

"com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011.."

Ask the question you really want answered.

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ooO--(_)--Ooo



wrote in message news:6397616@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tom-

the stud location tools are new for 2011
and i would like to hear how others are
using it..

[Anonymous]

Okay, that's getting down to the crux of the matter. That doesn't quite fit in to

"com'on somebody- help me learn
everything there is to know about
this new wall stud placement feature
for RAC 2011.."

Ask the question you really want answered.

--

' ___ '
- (o o) -
ooO--(_)--Ooo



wrote in message news:6397616@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tom-

the stud location tools are new for 2011
and i would like to hear how others are
using it..

[Anonymous]

Tom-

My original question was:
can (these new wall stud tools)
eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

"can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?"

that was the ONLY question
starting this thread..

that's a darn good question
as far as i know.. Edited by: Discussion_Admin on May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

[Anonymous]

Tom-

My original question was:
can (these new wall stud tools)
eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

"can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?"

that was the ONLY question
starting this thread..

that's a darn good question
as far as i know.. Edited by: Discussion_Admin on May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

[Anonymous]

yes the Subscription Wall Framing Tool can be used to frame walls in wood
and could be used instead of an external program. Although the Wall Framing
tool IS an external program that gets loaded under the add-in tab on the
Ribbon. It's only available via Subscription center, and I don't believe
the Student Portal has these add-ins.


"vector2" wrote in message news:6397915@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tom-

My original question was:
can (these new wall stud tools)
eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

"can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?"

that was the ONLY question
starting this thread..

that's a darn good question
as far as i know..

Edited by: Discussion_Admin on May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

[Anonymous]

yes the Subscription Wall Framing Tool can be used to frame walls in wood
and could be used instead of an external program. Although the Wall Framing
tool IS an external program that gets loaded under the add-in tab on the
Ribbon. It's only available via Subscription center, and I don't believe
the Student Portal has these add-ins.


"vector2" wrote in message news:6397915@discussion.autodesk.com...
Tom-

My original question was:
can (these new wall stud tools)
eliminate the need for an
external framing program?

"can that eliminate the need for an
external framing program?"

that was the ONLY question
starting this thread..

that's a darn good question
as far as i know..

Edited by: Discussion_Admin on May 26, 2010 4:17 PM

[Anonymous]

why does autodesk release new features
list and not say what features are only
for subscription?

when is autodesk going to stop making
enemies by misrepresenting and manipulating?

one of these days they will be out of business
for doing it and remain in denial about
why it happened..

see what autodesk has released for us
to find features we thought we were buying
but were tricked..

autodesk:
"New in Revit Architecture 2011"

"New method to choose location of studs (wall layers are exposed)"

not only is it in the same list with other standard features with
no mention of "subscription"- but there is no mention that
"in Revit Architecture" is a lie- because it's really just
an add-on program that we can get several other places..

when will this crap stop?

[Anonymous]

why does autodesk release new features
list and not say what features are only
for subscription?

when is autodesk going to stop making
enemies by misrepresenting and manipulating?

one of these days they will be out of business
for doing it and remain in denial about
why it happened..

see what autodesk has released for us
to find features we thought we were buying
but were tricked..

autodesk:
"New in Revit Architecture 2011"

"New method to choose location of studs (wall layers are exposed)"

not only is it in the same list with other standard features with
no mention of "subscription"- but there is no mention that
"in Revit Architecture" is a lie- because it's really just
an add-on program that we can get several other places..

when will this crap stop?

[Anonymous]

As per your image:

1. Sheet enhancements are included.

2. Revit Subscription package --> available if you are on subscription

3. Revit Extensions (read again the word "Extensions") --> available if you are on subscription.

I don't see any misleading. misrepresenting, manipulating, or crap, as you say.

[Anonymous]

As per your image:

1. Sheet enhancements are included.

2. Revit Subscription package --> available if you are on subscription

3. Revit Extensions (read again the word "Extensions") --> available if you are on subscription.

I don't see any misleading. misrepresenting, manipulating, or crap, as you say.

[Anonymous]

what are you reading from?

this is what i'm reading from..

subscription is one thing-
extension and enhance
is another..

[Anonymous]

what are you reading from?

this is what i'm reading from..

subscription is one thing-
extension and enhance
is another..

[Anonymous]

I am reading from the image you posted in your previous message. The word "Extension" means something that is not included in the out of the box product. The extensions are listed under the title "New features..." because they are new for 2011. I don't see any misleading information. Subscription is an option, that has some value, and in exchange for that value, you get additional features and benefits, such as AU content, and other downloads.

[Anonymous]

I am reading from the image you posted in your previous message. The word "Extension" means something that is not included in the out of the box product. The extensions are listed under the title "New features..." because they are new for 2011. I don't see any misleading information. Subscription is an option, that has some value, and in exchange for that value, you get additional features and benefits, such as AU content, and other downloads.

[Anonymous]

> "Extension" means something that is not included

where are you reading that?

how do you get that "extension" means "not included"?


1. an act or instance of extending.
2. the state of being extended.
3. that by which something is extended;
an addition: a four-room extension to a house.

not included?

and if they want "extension" to mean "subscription"
why is it not under subscription instead of the
same heading as all the other new features?

[Anonymous]

> "Extension" means something that is not included

where are you reading that?

how do you get that "extension" means "not included"?


1. an act or instance of extending.
2. the state of being extended.
3. that by which something is extended;
an addition: a four-room extension to a house.

not included?

and if they want "extension" to mean "subscription"
why is it not under subscription instead of the
same heading as all the other new features?

[Anonymous]

"The Illusion of Confidence"


"vector2" wrote in message news:6398272@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> "Extension" means something that is not included
>
> where are you reading that?
>
> how do you get that "extension" means "not included"?
>
>
> 1. an act or instance of extending.
> 2. the state of being extended.
> 3. that by which something is extended;
> an addition: a four-room extension to a house.
>
> not included?
>
> and if they want "extension" to mean "subscription"
> why is it not under subscription instead of the
> same heading as all the other new features?

[Anonymous]

"The Illusion of Confidence"


"vector2" wrote in message news:6398272@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> "Extension" means something that is not included
>
> where are you reading that?
>
> how do you get that "extension" means "not included"?
>
>
> 1. an act or instance of extending.
> 2. the state of being extended.
> 3. that by which something is extended;
> an addition: a four-room extension to a house.
>
> not included?
>
> and if they want "extension" to mean "subscription"
> why is it not under subscription instead of the
> same heading as all the other new features?

[Anonymous]

why is this even being discussed?

if you had any actual real office experience you would be argueing any of
this.

you would know whats in the Sx

[Anonymous]

why is this even being discussed?

if you had any actual real office experience you would be argueing any of
this.

you would know whats in the Sx

[Anonymous]

> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> why is this even being discussed?


because i had not investigated this
"new framing feature" and i wanted
to know if someone thought this new
feature could replace the need for
an external framing program..

and then i was told that it's really
not a new feature of revit unless
you are a subscription member..

then because of my disappointment
i pointed out that this new feature
is not listed under subscription only
features..

[Anonymous]

> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> why is this even being discussed?


because i had not investigated this
"new framing feature" and i wanted
to know if someone thought this new
feature could replace the need for
an external framing program..

and then i was told that it's really
not a new feature of revit unless
you are a subscription member..

then because of my disappointment
i pointed out that this new feature
is not listed under subscription only
features..

[Anonymous]

The fact that you can only get it by logging into your subscription web site
and downloading it from there would be an indication to most sentient
beings, I would think...

"vector2" wrote in message news:6399744@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
>> why is this even being discussed?
>
>
> because i had not investigated this
> "new framing feature" and i wanted
> to know if someone thought this new
> feature could replace the need for
> an external framing program..
>
> and then i was told that it's really
> not a new feature of revit unless
> you are a subscription member..
>
> then because of my disappointment
> i pointed out that this new feature
> is not listed under subscription only
> features..

[Anonymous]

The fact that you can only get it by logging into your subscription web site
and downloading it from there would be an indication to most sentient
beings, I would think...

"vector2" wrote in message news:6399744@discussion.autodesk.com...
>> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
>> why is this even being discussed?
>
>
> because i had not investigated this
> "new framing feature" and i wanted
> to know if someone thought this new
> feature could replace the need for
> an external framing program..
>
> and then i was told that it's really
> not a new feature of revit unless
> you are a subscription member..
>
> then because of my disappointment
> i pointed out that this new feature
> is not listed under subscription only
> features..

[Anonymous]

> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> The fact that you can only get it by logging
> into your subscription web site


yes but it's still listed as a new feature apart
from subscription features..

that's why when you buy a new car the
law requires a list of features included
where they belong..

it's nice to know what you will be
getting before you buy it..

[Anonymous]

> {quote:title=Guest wrote:}{quote}
> The fact that you can only get it by logging
> into your subscription web site


yes but it's still listed as a new feature apart
from subscription features..

that's why when you buy a new car the
law requires a list of features included
where they belong..

it's nice to know what you will be
getting before you buy it..